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Old 12-20-2023, 11:55 AM   #16
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well. I was going to post the

Code:
wmctrl -m
results. But when I change to desktop on the fly in the wm I am in. It only shows the wm. Not the desktop. Because, I have to log out every time and change window manager
Using the F! key. In Slimski log in window. I will log out and see if there is a difference.

Naw. No change

Code:
harry@scooter:~
$ wmctrl -m
Name: JWM
Class: N/A
PID: 17538
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: N/A
harry@scooter:~
Changed on the fly while in JWM. I usually stay in icewm no desktop.

Code:
harry@scooter:~
$ wmctrl -m
Name: IceWM 3.3.5 (Linux/x86_64)
Class: icewm
PID: 18816
Window manager's "showing the desktop" mode: OFF

Last edited by rokytnji; 12-20-2023 at 12:10 PM.
 
Old 12-21-2023, 06:29 PM   #17
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The window managers that let you do this usually have a menu option to swap windows managers from inside the wm, I think icewm has it, I think blackbox has it, sometimes that just replaces the first wm with the new one, but sometimes it will show in inxi as the parent wm being the desktop, and it running the child wm.

I wish I'd documented this when I did all this heavy wm testing, but it didn't seem important back then, it was just an odd thing I found could happen with some of the window managers.

For inxi, the reason this matters is it has to test the possible 'parent' wm first, to find the main one, which shows as Desktop:, then it excludes that one, and if there is another one running, it will show that as the wm.

In a sense, when I hit this level of arcana it's a pretty good sign because it means everything that is far less arcane is already running fine, which it is, though the refactors are resulting in new feature, polished existing features, etc, quite steadily.

But I'm leaving the wm bits for last because they are hardest to do, but that's now more or less so I'll just build the structure to do this, once it's built, it's easy to move wm around in that structure so it doesn't have to be perfect out of the box, just roughly match what inxi does now already.

Technically I should be just running my big wm vms to test, but I have to rebuild my vm drive because it's physically out of room, which is a process, have the new disks, but have to shut down everything and redo the data storage internally which is something that can take a while, so want to wait. Not anyone else's problem of course, that's just an irksome issue where my distro vm drive filled to capacity at the same time I needed to run a lot of big vms. Once switched it will all be NVMe however, which will be radically faster.

Last edited by h2-1; 12-21-2023 at 06:32 PM.
 
  


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