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Old 03-06-2007, 03:57 AM   #1
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Linux v/s CCNA???


Hello Everyone

Hey i knw doing certifications are rather guuud ,,,i guess linux is a best certification,, but i have opted for ccna + linux!! I guess i am going on right path!!whatever ,,,i guess gaining knowledge is the best
what u people think about this match

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Old 03-06-2007, 05:27 AM   #2
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Might want to revise your language/methods of typing/spelling/whatever on the internet.
 
Old 03-06-2007, 06:47 AM   #3
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Depends. The Study you do to pass a certification exam, helps u in learning new stuff.That is the a plus point.I personally know people who are more knowledgable than a RHCE/CCNA etc. as during their work they have come across situations whcih you dont find while studying
 
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Old 03-06-2007, 10:28 AM   #5
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thanks avirup ,,
I think u r right in this case ,, but still if we dont do these certification nobody recoganises our knowledge and do not prefer us for a job interview!
can u tell me about ur specialisation ,, i mean which certifications u have done!
I guess we just dont do certifications for knowledge but also to get a job!
 
Old 03-09-2007, 04:44 PM   #6
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well, i guess i'll clear up a few things about what a cisco certified network associate does (CCNA) i currently hold a ccna certification. it is the bottom end of the cisco pyramid. CCNA's do nothing but network, that is we build Local Area Networks (LAN's) from the ground up or administer them. We eat, sleep, and breathe IP adresses and routing protocols.

We are taught the OSI model and a simple 3 layer network model (core, distrobution, access layer). Perhaps the best thing about what cisco teaches is the theory and operation, it is all OS/Nos independant.

You can't really compare it to any other certifications out there. Network + is a joke, and the others pertain to operating systems.
 
Old 04-05-2007, 12:03 PM   #7
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CCNA and Network+

Hi guys,

I'm soon taking my Linux+ exam, and then am debating which certificate I should go for next. I work for a web hosting company doing just basic Level 1 support, so I don't really have much of an IT background otherwise.

My long term goal is to eventually get CISSP certified, as I am very interested in computer and network security.

I am studying these courses and going for my certifications as a method of learning, since I am not getting real-world experience at work on networking, security, etc..

So here is my question, since I have a limited IT background, should I first study for CompTIA Network+ to get a foundation in networking and then study for CCNA? Or is there a lot of duplication in the two?

It's CCNA that I will need so I can then go for other Cisco certifications, but I'm not sure if learning/studying for the CCNA exam will be too difficult for me if I don't first learn something easier like Network+, or is the CCNA entry-level enough for people with very limited networking knowledge.


Any comments or suggestions?


Thanks
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Old 04-05-2007, 12:39 PM   #8
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If you find a college that will teach cisco its a 2 year course, vs a 1 semester course. If you want a quick cert then get network +

when i took my ccna exam a few years ago i needed an 87 to pass. I had 3 questions left when i ran out of time. This certification is no joke.

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Old 04-05-2007, 12:53 PM   #9
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Hi

I work full time so going to college is out of question. I am considering various self-study CBT type courses, or Career Academy course, etc.. to study on my spare time.


My question is only if I should just directly go for the CCNA, of with my limited background if I should start with something easier first like Network+



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Old 04-07-2007, 12:35 AM   #10
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Hi Nat

as u said u have interest in network and security,, nowadays CISCO is the main root for security and networking in majority of companies,,,

CCNA do need u to have little bit of knowledge,, but not in advance level (tht u can do in future),,

so buddy go for CCNA!! Its the best for u and remember one thing

THINGS R NOT DIFFICULT AS THEY SEEM TO BE FROM THEIR NAME,, ITS JUST US MAKING IT MORE DIFFICULT TO STUDY,,

IT(information technology) IS ALL PRACTICAL KNOWLEDGE WHERE U JUST NEED BRAINS TO DISCOVER NEW THINGS IN IT

all the best!!

cheers
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Old 04-07-2007, 07:51 AM   #11
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Smile Thanks

Thanks Sim

that's great advice



Nat
 
Old 04-20-2007, 07:48 AM   #12
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Hello,

I just graduated with a degree in Computer Science, during my senior project I had a chance to talk with a lot of employers; and my current employer, and they all told me the same thing...certs are an extra benefit, a plus, but what you really need is a college degree.
Unless you are after a particular job or like dealing with Cisco only, get a degree...you will go further and make more money.
You get hired when you have a degree not because they were wowed by the grades you recevied but more becasue they know you toiled through X amount of years and put in the hard work toy acheive your goal, and thats what really matters in this field(lots of sleepless nights) depending on your particular area of focus. Don't get me wrong I am after my CISSP right now, but that will probably take me a good 5-10 years to get. So I guess I am saying, sure get a cert...but get a college degree as well, you will go a lot further.
Just settle in boys and girls it's gonna be a fun ride.

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Old 04-20-2007, 03:01 PM   #13
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Re: College degree

Hi lord-fu,

Thanks for your feedback, since you've had a chance to find out what employers are really looking for, hopefully you can help answer these questions for me, as I may consider finishing up my degree.

By degree, are you referring to a Bachelor degree? And if so, are they looking for graduates of 'Computer Science' or just the fact that you have a bachelor dgree?

I started my degree years ago in Marketing, possibly I have 40% of my credits, so i would take me less time to finish that up than start all over with a Computer Science degree.


I am originally from Quebec where the school system is a bit different. I do have a college degree (Business Admin), but it's University where one would get a bachelor degree. I only attended University for about 1 1/2 years.

So I may look into taking some night classes and finishing my degree, but I'm wondering if employers are specifically looking for "Computer Science" as the degree.


Thanks
Nat
 
Old 04-20-2007, 06:03 PM   #14
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Hello,

I can only answer what I have seen or heard from employers or job postings, as others experiences may be different and it may and most likely does differ by geographic location.

I live in Ohio, where I have seen many job postings for Cobol programmers and from what I have heard on the West Coast that is radically different. Almost all the jobs I have seen on places like careerbuilder.com and monsterjobs.com even dice have always said a bachelors degree or equivalent work experience. Some say Computer Science etc, but most just want to know you have been taught to think analytically and have good problem solving skills.

Do a search on the sites I mentioned above and take a look to see whats out there. I don't mean to belittle anyone I went to school with, but most of them did not even know what a power supply was, none the less how to write a lick of code, but the majority all ready have jobs after graduation and are making money.

A degree gets you the interview, your personality, attitude, reading/writing and communication skill set gets you the job.

As I said certifications are a good thing, and when used in conjunction with a degree, this means $you = $money.

Others may have a different viewpoint so hopefully you will get more answers, but please don't just take my words as proof of fact, do a little research and find out what employers in your area are after. I think any degree is worthwhile after all it will get you an interview and the rest is just up to you. :]

Good luck!
 
Old 04-21-2007, 04:18 AM   #15
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Hello everyone,,,

i guess all of the comments are right ,, and very true,,
I have a degree in Information technology, but i have realised that just degree can take you through graduate jobs or internships with less pay,,
If you r really keen to earn more dollars i guess certifications r the only way to grab those,,
I had my studies in Sydney and over there you can get jobs mostly of all the flavours but yeahhhhh nowadays security and Java on high demand
Well Well Well ,, i think other name of IT should be ( wave education) which comes up and down,, dnt knw the certification we r doing now ,, till we finish it will it be there in demand or not,,but i guess dnt give up ,, JUST DO IT MAN,, JUST GO FOR IT,,

I chose networking and linux coz i cant do programming ( i dnt feel like just sitting eight hrs cont. on computer and just typing stuff),,i like doing practicalsn,, metting people and shw them my ideas,,

I guess i have gone off my topic,,but anyway thts my opinion regarding certifications and degree

cheers
Sim
 
  


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