What are your thoughts on Blue Curve?

and what are your thoughts on GNOME? (like GNOME vs KDE and GNOME and future desktop use etc. etc.)

I think you should try them and see what you like

I like wmaker

many people use more than one

Ok, so my guess from reading through a few links from google is that Blue Curve is the new "gui" that RH places on it's wannabe integration of KDE/Gnome.

If this guess is correct, I don't know if I like it or not.

I definitely like the idea of having TONS of wm to choose from. It's part of what I believe linux is all about, choice.

The flip side of that is, when you have then you have the possibility of someone using an obscure wm that no one else does, which can sometimes make for some rough X troubleshooting. But then again, the flip to that is, there is no specific ap that goes with a specific wm anymore, pretty much anyway. It's all universal, so you can usually apply your knowledge about <X> app and apply it to <Z> wm, with very little problems, if any.

I guess I am more against it. I think it's taking away some of the user's abilities to choose between the 2 which one they prefer, taking away some of the specific "themes" that are used on older version of the respective desktop environments, and making an already bloated environment more bloated than it was to begin with.

As for the future of Gnome, I really hope it sticks around, I doubt it's going anywhere though. I like Gnome, and sometimes use dropline just to get a nice gui goin real quick. AFAIK also it was created because KDE was being "stuck up" and didn't wanna make their setup open. So Gnome came along and said "Ok, be that way, we'll make a desktop every bit as good as your "closed source" desktop, and we will make ours open." Shorty after Gnome said this, KDE released their source, and became open (probably ultra simplified and a bit off, but close to what I read somewhere). If that's true, then I think Gnome really deserves a bit more attention than it usually gets, even though KDE seems to be the newb's choice out of the 2. Don't get me wrong, I am a huge fan of KDE, I like their gui's and I really like their tools.

Anyway, that's my 2 cents on that thing. Now watch me be totally wrong on what Blue Curve is It's probably "Operation Blue Curve" which is like Gnome 3.0 or something

Cool

and on this machine I use gnome

actually, bluecurve hasn't combined them. Using it, I have found out, that it is simply a way to make the icons look more alike in both, and they have made alot of management aspects easier. When you first install your system, kde and gnome look very similiar, because they also have the bluecurve theme, and I emphasize theme, installed Personally, when it comes to kde vs. gnome, I prefer kde. I'm not saying that gnome is bad, but just not what I like. I know there are alot of people out there that prefer gnome or another wm to kde.

DavidPhillips: I do use Gnome w/ Bluecruve. Love them. Was just wondering what your thoughts were

And I favor Gnome more then KDE and i've used both equally as much. So was wondering your thoughts on that because I hear more talk about KDE then i DO Gnome but i really really want Gnome to make it to the top and stick around for a long long time.

oh, don't worry, in that regard, I'm sure gnome and kde will both be around for quite some time. I know alot of people that like gnome, and alot of people that like kde. it's just a matter of what you're more comfortable with. as far as I know, linus likes kde, but then I'm sure alot of the other people up there in the linux world like gnome. it's all good with me. and I'd rather use gnome than explorer.exe. lol

bluecurve is more of a 'look and feel' sort of style that is applied by default to both gnome and kde by RH 8, to make them both look the same. My personal opinion is that bluecurve is kind of amaturish, or something, its intangible I guess, but I don't like it. And the nested menu is terrible. I don't know why RH would think anyone would want this "feature". It took me better part of an hour just to manually edit the 'k' menu so all the apps are on one menu.

If you don't know what I'm talking about, the menu has the usual suspects on the menu (multimedia, internet, office, games etc. . .) then there is an extras menu which contains the exact same menu with additional apps. Very inconvenient if the apps you like are under this nested second level menu. Its just bad ergonomics.

just change themes

Well of course I changed the theme, but it doesn't help the nested menu problem.

I kinda like it, makes it look less cluttered, except for when it comes to my room, I can't stand clutter.

As far as the nested menus, It has nothing to do with BlueCurve or RedHat

It's just gnome

maybe make your own menus

well, it's kde too, but I think he said he did that.

kde puts the recently used programs on the top of the menu

I know, but he's talking about this: http://knightabel.onestop.net/snapshot2.png