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Old 02-03-2015, 01:31 AM   #1
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Tipps to reduce high blood pressure naturally - programmers & sedentarity


Hello,

If you are programmer and getting older, you may be sitting too long and so on. Sedentarity can be a possible problem.

When aging, one may (unfortunately) face high blood pressure.

For those who got or had the problem of high blood pressure, which tipps could you give?

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Old 02-03-2015, 02:25 AM   #2
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1) Try keep ideal body weight.

2) Exercise regulary (Aerobics are good enough).

3) Eat salt no more than 5 gram. Though if you sweat a lot then salt intake should increased to accommodate increased loss of salt in sweat.

4) Don't smoke.

5) Don't drink too much alcohol.

5) Relax and meditate. Avoid stressful conditions. Avoid tense situations. Don't make your lifestyle full of constant stress and tension.

6) Regularly check your blood pressure. If you have it take medications compliantly.

7) Don't look to monitor continuously for long time. Take breaks, see some other objects. Look at distant objects.

8) Eat balanced diet.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 08:21 AM   #3
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1) Try keep ideal body weight.

2) Exercise regulary (Aerobics are good enough).

3) Eat salt no more than 5 gram. Though if you sweat a lot then salt intake should increased to accommodate increased loss of salt in sweat.

4) Don't smoke.

5) Don't drink too much alcohol.

5) Relax and meditate. Avoid stressful conditions. Avoid tense situations. Don't make your lifestyle full of constant stress and tension.

6) Regularly check your blood pressure. If you have it take medications compliantly.

7) Don't look to monitor continuously for long time. Take breaks, see some other objects. Look at distant objects.

8) Eat balanced diet.
Yep, all or some combination thereof. It's absolutely not just about High Blood pressure, there's also Diabetes, or other things just basically related to obesity. And if you're the type of programmer who's a lightweight drink of water, still diet and basic aerobic health are very important. These are just the challenges when you age.

That being said, my diet is not ideal. I work out regularly and due to the diet, there's room for improvement. Don't lose your faith that these steps are the correct ones, it may take time, it may have little visual effect, but it should at least have total health effect and if you strive to improve once you make some everyday changes, you're at least trying to do better.
 
Old 02-03-2015, 08:28 AM   #4
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I have just found an article about it: just stand up and use a height adjustable desk like this: http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Sta...djustable+desk
 
Old 02-03-2015, 10:48 AM   #5
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I have just found an article about it: just stand up and use a height adjustable desk like this: http://www.amazon.com/Adjustable-Sta...djustable+desk
Looks fantastic, really. However...
Which company would propose this to their employes? Unfortunately not much
 
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Have you guys heard the news and video of work gear of Linus Torvalds in year 2014. He uses a treadmill while he works with Linux development in his laptop.
 
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Have you guys heard the news and video of work gear of Linus Torvalds in year 2014. He uses a treadmill while he works with Linux development in his laptop.
I've done that, but the times I can actually work at home and not end up needing to do peripheral things have always been very limited. Plus having a family and being the Dad, ... EVERYONE assumes they can freely bug you if you happen to be working from home. The dog's probably the least intrusive even though he's with me 100% of my day when at home.

The other thought about that is while keeping activity while working is good. Taking a break from work is equally good.

My visit to the gym where I listen to music, read something, watch TV, or watch the other gym attendees - really a combination of all those. That break from the actual work environment does help a lot.

I've actually been known to have a situation where we have a client here for the day, everyone breaks for lunch, I head to the gym when they order something for lunch.

I don't do that all the time either, but honestly those days when you're in a meeting with a client from 8 until after 5, it sort of draws you down being "on" 100% of the time. For me that's probably when I need the stress relief the most.

I could never be an instructor who does like technical classes. You see them come to companies or a hotel, talk for 4 hours. Lunch involves a bunch of highly interested persons bugging the instructor about deeper core topics related to the class, and then they return to instructing another 4+ hours for the afternoon, finally ending late Friday where they have to get a plane out of town.
 
Old 02-06-2015, 07:27 AM   #8
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A few other suggestions:

(1) Don't let your doctor take a few cholesterol measures and put you on "LipitorŪ for life." Nor, a few blood-pressure readings and put you on "something-else for life." Your body is distinct, unique. It will not conform to "the national average."

(2) Get off the couch. Don't surf LQ at all hours of the day and night ... allow at least two hours for sleep.

(3) Bring your own lunch ... often ... and don't just stick a cardboard box in the microwave. When you go out to eat, eat smaller portions and eat them more slowly. Forget what your mamma told you: you don't have to "clean your plate." (Most of the time, what I'll order comes on the "appetizers" menu, which some restaurants correctly call, "smaller portions." I'm still satisfied.)

(3a) Eat a variety of foods, and take the time to enjoy them. If something "looks good to you" as you browse the aisles, buy one and see what it tastes like. Remember that your body needs many things, and that it will continue to eat if it's looking for something. In veterinary science, that's called "cribbing." The snack-food industry calls it "the munchies."

(4) Salt is not your enemy; salt is not the problem. Your body must have the correct amount of salt, and it will automatically maintain that level. Simply drink plenty of w-a-t-e-r, and avoid unnecessarily salted foods such as most of the stuff you get in those boxes. Also be on the watch for monosodium glutimate (MSG), present in most boxes and canned foods and sometimes disguised as "hydrolized vegetable protein."

(5) Read the ingredients. They will shock you. (Formaldehyde, anyone?) Generally, take a "great circle tour" around the grocery store ... skipping almost all the aisles and the hot-bar restaurants. Veggies, fruits, good meat, milk and butter, and go home and crack open a cookbook. Cooking is a lot of fun. (Just don't over-indulge in "the cook's privilege.")

(6) De-addict yourself from all sodas ... "energy drinks" ... all that garbage. (Yes, they are physically addictive. In the case of Coca-Cola, it's actually the "caramel color.") You are what you eat. And drink. Typical sodas contain phosphoric acid, which binds specifically with calcium and flushes it out of your body through the diuretic properties of caffeine. It's a drink that leaves you thirsty! Fresh water. Just water. I have a tip-proof glass of it well away from the keyboard. ... from which I find myself sipping, fairly constantly.

(7) One of the most pleasant things to do is to ... go take a walk. Great place to think, the stimulated circulation helps to clear your mind, and ... well, you're just walking. Not running. No electro-doodads strapped to your anything. Just ... going for a nice walk. Do it every day that you can. It ought to be fun. (But, guys especially, don't take that walk at lunchtime on a warm day and then go back to the office . . . not without showering first.)

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Old 02-06-2015, 08:53 AM   #9
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While I don't have high blood pressure, and I'm not sure it contributes to it, but I recently gave up Coffee after 40 years. And boy, do I feel better. I drank it all day every day. Now it's tea w\lemon and (still addicted to) sugar.

Coping skills have dramatically improved also.

Exercise and Diet seems to be 2 major themes here.
It's progress, not perfection...
 
Old 02-06-2015, 11:07 AM   #10
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"Exercise and Diet seems to be 2 major themes here.
It's progress, not perfection..."
I wonder how you can measure if you did sufficiently sport during the week.
It would be nice if you add a sensor/monitor into your body to tell you * warning: go out for a walk * or * go for a nap * ...
 
Old 02-06-2015, 11:23 AM   #11
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Preliminary Warning:

If you are truly concerned about high blood pressure, the place to ask for advice is not on a website. A doctor will be able to help you a lot more.

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Originally Posted by veerain View Post
1) Try keep ideal body weight.

2) Exercise regular (Aerobics are good enough).

3) Eat salt no more than 5 gram. Though if you sweat a lot then salt intake should increased to accommodate increased loss of salt in sweat.

4) Don't smoke.

5) Don't drink too much alcohol.

5) Relax and meditate. Avoid stressful conditions. Avoid tense situations. Don't make your lifestyle full of constant stress and tension.

6) Regularly check your blood pressure. If you have it take medications compliantly.

7) Don't look to monitor continuously for long time. Take breaks, see some other objects. Look at distant objects.

8) Eat balanced diet.
This is all excellent advice. I would also suggest limited intake of saturated fats.
Basically - liquid fat is better then solid fat (olive oil versus butter). I don't have any evidence however (I haven't looked)
And as always.. in moderation.

Here's some explanation of some causes of high blood pressure and extra information when things go bad.

Blood vessel vasoconstriction
Think of a squeezed straw or a narrowing river. Both have the same amount of fluid to pass through, but must do so at a faster rate (pressure).
Smoking is known to cause this. Standing up also does this. Alcohol is known to temporarily vasodilate vessels (you ever hear the rumor that small amounts of red wine is good for your heart? this is why.)
If you've ever been sleeping for hours and suddenly stand up - you probably feel dizzy. Your vessels are all vasodilated and your heart can't keep up! So all your blood starts pooling at the lower extremities and you will feel your heart racing. Then your vessels vasoconstrict, your heart can keep up and you feel better. Although you might faint in the process (This is actually more of less normal)

Blood clot
Thinking of a straw with a piece of dirt in it, you might notice it takes a lot more pressure to get fluid through at the same rate.
If that pressure is too high, the dirt might break off and continue traveling through the straw.
when dealing with blood vessels, you don't want this to happen. Traveling clots (or embolalia) have a nasty tendency to get stuck in pulmonary (lung) or cranial (brain) areas, both of which are big issues.

There are a few things that may be of consideration:

Understanding Ischemic Attacks (TIA or Stroke – The most favorable of the 3 types)
2 hrs is generally the key time before permanent damage sets in. Get to the hospital well before this time.

Some basic signs:
  1. Generally, a TIA affects one side or the other. Since in muscular control the sides switch (extra detail) symptoms on patients right side indicate a left side stroke.
    So if a person loses control of their trigeminal nerve (cranial nerve V) they will lose motor function (or muscular control) of some facial muscles, amongst other mild things (partial taste loss)
    Essentially: If a persons face starts drooping on one side they are stroking and please get them to a hospital. This of course applies throughout the entire side. If they start tripping because their left side suddenly feels weak or numb, it is a good time to be alarmed.
    Also, a single aspirin is considered good practice if you have one should someone show signs of stroking. This can be argued against with very valid reasons but I believe the potential positive impact (more blood let through in a IA) outweighs the negative impact (more blood let through in a hemorrhagic stroke)
  2. The brain controls our ability to express and understand information. If one or both are affected (Wernicke's and/or Broca's area) They will lose the ability to talk/write correctly or at all (Broca's or expressive asphasia), lose the ability to understand communication (Wernicke's or Receptive asphasia) or both (Global aphasia). This may be partial or complete
    Essentially:
    If a person starts talking weird, “I feel odd” == “I table where” or seems to not understand anything you say or is just confused in general all of a sudden, please get them to a hospital.
When that moving embolism gets stuck in the pulmonary area... things are generally not clear.

Symptoms:
50% patients have tachycardia (high heart rate or >100)
65-85% patients have dyspnea (trouble breathing) or pain on inspiration (breathing in)
42% have a cough
etc
So if you start to develop these symptoms, you might have a pulmonary embolism, or you might have a mild cold. The first requires a doctor. Most people who die from this were never correctly diagnosed. So feel free to chance embarrassment at coming in because of some very mild thing.

Also – claudication is when something is functioning, but at a very limited level (claudication means to limp)
So if you feel fine typing and go for a walk and suddenly have pain in your legs and it goes away with further rest, you likely have claudication in your lower leg (most common area but not a rule)
This is a primary sign for Deep Vein Thrombosis (DVT). Please see a doctor if you have this happen

Ok. Now that I have probably scared you all enough, the advice veerain posted is again very good. Following it will go a long way towards preventing all this from happening.
Oh yes - do not do this as a new years resolution. It must be lifestyle changes for it to be effective. Think long term.
You won't get clots from smoking for a week. You also won't prevent clots by not smoking for a week


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Old 02-06-2015, 11:49 AM   #12
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I wonder how you can measure if you did sufficiently sport during the week.
It would be nice if you add a sensor/monitor into your body to tell you * warning: go out for a walk * or * go for a nap * ...
The fact that I can't move by Friday night means my weeks' worth of workouts are doing something. I continue to tell myself it's good, but ...

There are monitors of various types, I've worked on a few and also looked at competitive products out there to evaluate both how they did it and identify differentiating features.
 
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The fact that I can't move by Friday night means my weeks' worth of workouts are doing something. I continue to tell myself it's good, but ...

There are monitors of various types, I've worked on a few and also looked at competitive products out there to evaluate both how they did it and identify differentiating features.
However it could also mean... : The fact that I can't move by Friday night means that I stressed too much and worked too much too during the week.
 
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