Hello, I've been a linux user for about 2 days now and have noticed that linux is a lot slow then windows at everything..... Even starting up..... I've not been sitting here with a stop clock but I might buy one just so I can post the differences...... I'm running the 64bit version on an AMD xp3500 and it feels like i'm on an old Cyrix 233Mhz machine.......

I'm very close to ditching everything already.... ... Just running a simple task like amsn is like ****ing a brick and then it's don't always work........ What's going on...... ?

Can i benchmark my machine?


yours desperately

chicken george

hi there,

a protest : linux is not slow. probably, FEDORA is slow or not optmized for your machine.
an application taking a long time to load has nothing to do with linux. maybe it is kde. maybe dma is not set.
can be a lot of things.
boot process can be really well checked. make a search with "boot time" and you will see.
i just think before make a statement "linux is slow" is better make a research around.

my best regards

slackie1000

Dude........... Thanks for your input, but reread the post subject. It starts with "Why" and ends with "?".......... it's a question not a "statement"!


chicken george

linux isn't slow. linux isn't just a copy of windows.
no install-and-everything-works-but-freezes-once-a-day.

did you ask yourself, what could YOU do to accelerate your linux?

if you want to have a faster linux, try to configure your hardware! your description sounds like you didn't do before, otherwise you'd have a damn fast thing.

both at work and at home, i also use fedora core 3 on machines that don't have an amd 3500 and probably half the mbram (512) than yours--and fedora runs fast + fine!

have fun while rebooting your windows!

bavarian

ok. dude.
i don't intend to make a flame war. i just felt that "why is linux so slow" is a question that has as background the "fact" that linux is slow.
i understood that you would like to know why. That is why i said, the first assumption is false. linux is not slow. so, there can not be a "why".
i think is due my lack of english knowledge. anyway, i think also you know what i mean.
bavarian, gave also some positive input. give some tries.

best regards

slackie1000

I edited the title but it didn't change in the main windows!!!!!!!!


I am asking myself

1. Why do linux users get defensive when the word WINDOWS is mentioned?

2. Why can't I get any programs to work! Amsn would be great for a start....... ? Typing AMSN in the run applications windows does nothing.....

3. Is there a website that can teach Linux?..... e.g. how to enable dma etc

4. Shall i try mandrake?

thanks

chicken george

p.s. Please don't take any of the above personal.......

From a command shell type in TOP and post the results here, so we can see what is happening.

Fedora should not be that slow, sadly I do not know it that well so I can not help that much.
I think that you probably have got services running you do not need and hopefully TOP will tell us what they are.
I apologise for some of the unhelpful comments made here.
Do not give up, it is worth trying a bit more.

top - 11:13:12 up 12 min, 2 users, load average: 0.19, 0.16, 0.13
Tasks: 87 total, 1 running, 85 sleeping, 0 stopped, 1 zombie
Cpu(s): 7.6% us, 0.0% sy, 0.0% ni, 92.4% id, 0.0% wa, 0.0% hi, 0.0% si
Mem: 508980k total, 431840k used, 77140k free, 33440k buffers
Swap: 1015800k total, 0k used, 1015800k free, 204972k cached

PID USER PR NI VIRT RES SHR S %CPU %MEM TIME+ COMMAND
3444 root 15 0 164m 23m 147m S 3.6 4.7 0:18.56 X
4065 chris 15 0 158m 14m 141m S 3.3 3.0 0:00.55 gnome-terminal
4086 chris 17 0 6144 1004 5920 R 0.3 0.2 0:00.03 top
1 root 16 0 4740 588 4528 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.94 init
2 root 34 19 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ksoftirqd/0
3 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.09 events/0
4 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khelper
5 root 15 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kacpid
35 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kblockd/0
36 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.17 khubd
48 root 20 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
49 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 pdflush
51 root 14 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 aio/0
50 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kswapd0
123 root 25 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kseriod
192 root 5 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 ata/0
194 root 22 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_0
195 root 23 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_1
206 root 19 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_2
207 root 19 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 scsi_eh_3
225 root 6 -10 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kmirrord/0
234 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.05 kjournald
1235 root 6 -10 3592 480 3420 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 udevd
1657 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 khpsbpkt
1696 root 15 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 knodemgrd_0
2225 root 19 0 0 0 0 S 0.0 0.0 0:00.00 kjournald
2341 root 16 0 2516 448 2340 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 cpuspeed
2567 root 15 0 4364 1196 3796 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 dhclient
2625 root 16 0 3612 624 3432 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.06 syslogd
2629 root 16 0 2524 484 2348 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.03 klogd
2641 rpc 20 0 4736 640 4540 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 portmap
2661 rpcuser 24 0 5788 796 5604 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 rpc.statd
2694 root 16 0 19836 1232 18m S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 rpc.idmapd
2760 root 15 0 4796 560 3456 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.01 nifd
2790 nobody 20 0 15492 1060 3580 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 mDNSResponder
2811 root 21 0 2528 556 2348 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 acpid
2823 root 16 0 60396 2552 57m S 0.0 0.5 0:00.00 cupsd
2848 root 24 0 20792 1736 19m S 0.0 0.3 0:00.07 sshd
2859 root 18 0 8700 880 8324 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 xinetd
2879 root 16 0 34976 3684 32m S 0.0 0.7 0:00.00 sendmail
2887 smmsp 23 0 27768 3132 25m S 0.0 0.6 0:00.00 sendmail
2898 root 16 0 4164 540 3980 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 gpm
2908 root 16 0 45568 856 44m S 0.0 0.2 0:00.00 crond
2934 xfs 16 0 10160 1804 9192 S 0.0 0.4 0:00.01 xfs
2944 root 34 19 2524 648 2348 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 anacron
2953 daemon 16 0 4676 656 4500 S 0.0 0.1 0:00.00 atd
2972 dbus 16 0 7432 1244 7248 S 0.0 0.2 0:00.08 dbus-daemon-1


Hopefully this is what you wanted??????

chicken george

Okay, I just typed in amsn in a terminal window and got this :-

Error in startup script: couldn't read file "sxml.tcl": no such file or directory
while executing
"source sxml.tcl "
(procedure "reload_files" line 10)
invoked from within
"reload_files"
(file "/usr/share/amsn/amsn" line 221)


anybody got a clue what it means?

thanks

chicken george

ok. ! thank you !

i saw most of the answers that you are looking for here at LQ.
i agree with davholla, fedora should not be that slow. something is happening.

best regards

slackie1000

is aMsn the only program starting slow, or anything on the machine?
I've never had luck with aMsn, so I just use gaim now.
As far as the entire machine running slow, try this site http://www.yolinux.com/TUTORIALS/Lin...imization.html
It is for linux in general, not fedora specific. There are a lot of unneeded services in FC3 that start by default, run system-config-services and go through and turn off what you don't want.

Just everything....... Like at the moment the hard drive is doing something....... I've not even selected anything......

I've got Amsn to come up but now it's saying i've not got SSL (tsl) installed....... Where do i point amsn to in the options window?

It's just like the whole thing is a ball ache

chicken george

Floods, I checked out that website........ Decided to go from the top......

[root@localhost ~]# hdparm /dev/sdc

/dev/sdc:
HDIO_GET_MULTCOUNT failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
IO_support = 0 (default 16-bit)
readonly = 0 (off)
readahead = 256 (on)
geometry = 9964/255/63, sectors = 81964302336, start = 0
[root@localhost ~]#
[root@localhost ~]# hdparm -tT /dev/sdc

/dev/sdc:
Timing cached reads: 1836 MB in 2.00 seconds = 917.68 MB/sec
HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
Timing buffered disk reads: 150 MB in 3.00 seconds = 49.99 MB/sec
HDIO_DRIVE_CMD(null) (wait for flush complete) failed: Inappropriate ioctl for device
[root@localhost ~]#

obviously it's a SATA drive and that's not the correct line to type in!

Is this settup ok?

Disk /dev/sdc: 81.9 GB, 81964302336 bytes
255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9964 cylinders
Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes

Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System
/dev/sdc1 * 1 66 530113+ b W95 FAT32
/dev/sdc2 67 79 104422+ 83 Linux
/dev/sdc3 80 9964 79401262+ 8e Linux LVM

Command (m for help):

the win95 fat32 is used for dual boot...... is this correct

Hi Chicken George,

Don't take the initial flames personally. Some in the Linux community are truly passionate about their hatred of Windows.

I'm not an expert and I don't have all that much familiarity with SATA drives; however, this link (while not EXACTLY what you are experiencing) would seem to indicate that there are some issues with FC3 and SATA drives. Perhaps you could try the fix suggested at the bottom of page 1?

http://www.fedoraforum.org/forum/sho...7&page=2&pp=15

Hope this helps. Let us know how it goes.