I am running dual boot with Fedora Core 1 and Win XP, I have done this as well on another system with FC2 and WinXPl.

First of all, remember Linux is free -- so don't bitch about a free OS. And if you still feel the need to bitch then go waste your money on a legit copy of windoze, at least then you will have something real to bitch about!

If you mbr is screwed up then get the disk tools from the drive manufacturer and reset the drive. Everytime that anything like this has happened to me that is what I have done or I have used WinXP pro to go in and manually delete the partitions.

I run some pretty intensive parallel computing apps and FC1 has continuously outperformed windows. Nough Said!

(and remember, as I have been fortunate to use this site often, people are here to help and more often than not your problems do get solved if you put some time into working with it......)

Cheers to all

DH

linux Outperformes windows, hmm thats a zealots point of view, Im all for linux I think it has potential but wait until windows get there 64 bit archetecture O/S of the ground, Im sorry but I know it will have bugs but not like the ones fedora is having (namely screwing with drive geomatry). In reference to performance..... one of the things that uses probably the most rescources on general use PCs is gaming....... I have had games run on linux & also on windows and I can tell you they rip the "beep" out of linux. In reference to server side software like apache...... look at the organisation structure in windows.... then look in linux, its a mess. Obviously linux does have its advantages especially for programmers and novice programmers like myself. But can you truely say it has the stability an userfriendlyness of windows.... fair enough you may say user friendlyness isnt everything , but if your doing a comparison with say companys that may want to use it well they just want a system that gets set up in a structured way (as they may be setting up hundreds of machines) and that runs day in day out without problems, also if there is a power cut is the system going to be screwed in windows? no you run a scandisk & walla your back in business. I have been using linux fedora & solaris for about 3 years now & I cant say that when they get shutdown incorrectly they bounce back everytime. I could go on, take the docs for windows ..... clearly laid out in lamens terms then take the docs in linux and unix, the majority (NOT all) are written in technobabble & tend to concentrate on the complexitys of problems whilst missing out initial fundemental steps so basically I dont see it as bitching I see it as keeping people informed so that they could further improve linux, also I lost alot of vital work which was on a TOTALLY unrelated partition so dont say not to bitch, you tell me anyone in the same situation who wouldnt, Im also trying to make sure that poeple know whats happening so they dont have to go through what I have went through. Another thing is the fact its open source some kind of excuse? I dont think it should be there getting programmes provided by gurus for free surely that should be an advantage not a disadvantage if things are done correctly?

Regards
David

Linux lala yes, I am sticking with linux now that I have it running I like it , apart from the issues I would say it is an improvement thus far from redhat, Im still getting my windows geometry altered even though it is on a different physical drive, Im going to format & try and set the geometry maually

Regards
Dave

Why not just "low-level" (write all 0's) format the drive and be done with it. You should be able to get free utilities from most harddrive manufacturer's websites to do this. I have a utility from Seagate that works on ALL SCSI and IDE drives.

hey unixmad, ever try debian, suse, mandrake, Linspire, Xandros, Slackware or any other distro. I think it is pretty stupid sitting there and bashing Linux in general because of your experiences with Fedora. Oh, and you say great work Linux Developer's, no one's had this problem with Debian or SuSE so blame Red Hat, not all Linux Developer's That would be like saying just because Dell makes shitty computers all computers are crap (I personally think you get what you pay for with Dell, I bought one a few years back and it broke within weeks). Or, if you have bad luck with a ford saying that all trucks don't work right. Also, I personally think Linux outperforms Windows any day in stability, I have yet to have a crash that forced me to reboot my computer, and this is in 7 months of using Linux about 90% of the time, even using some of the same apps (e.g. LimeWire) that have caused crashes in Windows XP that have forced me to reboot. And also, there have been cases of Linux servers running for more than a year....would you not call that something that can just run. Oh, I've also had power outages with Fedora, nothing bad happened to anything. Oh, and also, if you want your hand held the entire bloody process then actually buy a copy of Linspire and quit bitching

I just red along this thread and i'm thinking about some stuff that could help.... But i guess since last month, wasabi has definitely formated his hd. anyway :

- windows can't boot if two partitions are bootable, so just set the windows one as bootable if you wanna get your win os back

- there is a soft call "gag". Right, the name isn't very engaging but it's a very good boot manager
get it : http://gag.sourceforge.net/
you can install it on a floppy and then boot with it and install it in your MBR.
GaG will find any bootable OS on your hardrive! This save me many times!!!!

- for your next install : never install the linux bootloader in the mbr, but in the / partition powerblock.
This way, it won't touch to your mbr, and if you reinstall windows later, the windows bootloader won't erase the linux one. So, you're sure to keep both systems safe.
About Fedora & RedHat : these 2 distros put the Linux bootloader (Grub, no choice) in the mbr by default. While installing Fedora, go into options when it comes to set the bootloader and put it right in the / powerblock.

right, hope this can help someone if not Wasabi.

That's cool not being mad about linux. Linux is not for lazzy dudes. But each time you solve a problem and go throught it, and once in a while, built some amazing services and sottwares, then you never do the mistake again, learn a lot, and get satisfaction about it.

... However, i would definitely prefer being with some girls tonight

I guess we can leave the issue of bashing linux alone. It was said in a fit of fury and since then he has decided to stick with linux, which is great. So I congratuklate him for sticking with linux and I request everyone to stop flaming him.

He has moved on and it's about time we all did too.

unixmad: maybe you can search in the fedora mailing lists is something like this has ever been discussed. It might be helpful. Or you can register at Fedora mailing list and ask for support there, if you need any

Regards.

ok, so you can'ty boot in to windows right?

Why don't you do a low level format on the drive, iof it's only broken partitions and you have no work you wanna keep.

If that don't work, then you really are in the shit!

It may not evan find the drive.
low level and reinstall windows and linux as a duel boot(not feora core 2)-thats if you wanna still use linux.

This proberly did'nty help...awww crap.......just another line.....
good luck!!!!!

or, a simple way
buy yoursaeldf a new hard drive man.....there so cheap these day, i could pick up[ an 120GB for £40!!!! no, really, i can!

I am currently running linux, Please read my previous posts correctly before making lame comments........ I just read an article written by the guy that writes oriely books... man he has got it right when he says that the some of the Linux community have a terrible attitude with people rasing issues about the bug .....
see http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4896. So you think its funny that someone lost there data? Please refrain from commenting unless you have something constructive to say. I also dont want to have to put up with your two syllable volcabulary and insults. Seriously though take a look at that oriely link, that guy knows what he talking about hes a REAL computing guru and you cant argue with that. Consequantly I agree whole heartedly with his truthful article.

David

just noting that the link you provided is dead.

sorry about the link its http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/wlg/4896 I put in a . accidently

Thats it working now, its a good article

Sounds like somebody didn't think through their partitions. My experience has been that when something goes wrong, it's usually not Linux's fault -- it's mine!

No it aint my fault Ive partitioned hundreds of times , my layout was:

Windows on primary master drive & linux on primary slave (a full drive each)
so i dont see how grub should be interfering with my other windows drive and how that its malfunction is attributed to my drive layout?

Its a GAPING bug, I cant believe that poeple are in a way denying that, I no theres the whole issue about how windows interprets drive geometry but in my opinion grub shouldnt be altering any OTHER drives geometry which it did in my case but yes its my fault , the linux GODS wouldnt get it wrong, excuse my sarcasm but I cant believe people are defending this bug! , hell if that were windows everyone would be calling Bill what for and saying windows is -----,

David

You may think im a windows man, but you would be wrong , Im on linux more than windows but the thing is I think honesty is better than telling poeple what they want to hear, thats probably why there hasnt been a REAL fix yet for this shocking bug?

go to your hard drive manufacturer's web site and download a utility to zero the hard drive (i had the option to only zero the first 300MB, and that worked).

this is a well-known problem with all 2.6-based kernels. it's not anything to do solely with Fedora