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Hey everyone, i have a friend with a little dell insperon net-book. The little POS just does not have enough power for win7 so he wants Linux on it. He had attempted it himself with Ubuntu and unity, but it really was just too much. Anyway me being the die hard Linux user i am, suggested that he let me setup a functioning lightweight distro on it. i immediately chose Debian.
now here's where im unsure about.....my friend wants to use this thing for chat, Skype, mp3's, and web browsing. he has no prior Linux know-how.
What DM would you recommend that i could configure to be "stupid-proof" to lessen the chance that he could screw something up?
Please do not misunderstand the post though, my plan is to use debian, gnome2, skype, and google chrome. Im just looking for suggestions on optimization, and ease of use techniques. Thanks for the links.
I would go with KDE or Xfce rather than Gnome, once Wheezy is released Gnome will move to Gnome3.
What I would do:
Install either KDE or XFCE
wicd rather than network-manager
update-manager so he can keep it updated
Make sure to add the Skype repo so it stays updated
Install VLC,and mplayer plus the necessary depends from debian-multimedia.org for DVD playback
smplayer
clementine and/or amarok
soundkonverter
kid3
k3b
k9copy
gdebi
choqok for Twitter
LibreOffice
setup sudo so he can add/remove/upgrade
Make sure to install Flash, java, gecko-mediaplayer and other browser plugins as needed.
If he uses Google apps like Google Music or Picasa, install Google Music manager and WINE for Picasa 3.
KDE4 uses more resources then any other DM, if you read my post i said it needs to be lightweight.
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Install either KDE or XFCE
wicd rather than network-manager
update-manager so he can keep it updated
Make sure to add the Skype repo so it stays updated
Install VLC,and mplayer plus the necessary depends from debian-multimedia.org for DVD playback
smplayer
clementine and/or amarok
soundkonverter
kid3
k3b
k9copy
gdebi
choqok for Twitter
LibreOffice
setup sudo so he can add/remove/upgrade
clementine, amarok, k3b, and wine are all anti lightweight
and if you read the post its a dell mini-1018, there is no disk drive
Distribution: Debian Wheezy, Jessie, Sid/Experimental, playing with LFS.
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Originally Posted by -Fay-
KDE4 uses more resources then any other DM, if you read my post i said it needs to be lightweight.
Have you used a full blown Gnome 3? yes KDE uses more resources but don't think for a minute Gnome 3 is lightweight (even though it can be striped back quite well).
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and if you read the post its a dell mini-1018, there is no disk drive
Lighten up a bit, are you going to stop your friend from buying a external dvd drive if he wants one? I'd actually be giving him full admin rights so that when something broke or they got frustrated you didn't do the "if you did as I told you" speech. If it is their machine I'm not sure you have the right to control what happens to it.
Use stable, not testing/sid. Its harder to break stable than testing/sid.
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I would go with KDE or Xfce rather than Gnome, once Wheezy is released Gnome will move to Gnome3.
I've got to agree, though I probably wont be putting KDE 4.X on a atom netook. Even if it had more RAM and CPU power, the $%&$ intel video adapter will let KDE 4.X down IMO.
Xfce is easy to use, works better than Lxde, and Xfce is more intuitive than the WMs lighter than Lxde. IMO anyway.
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Originally Posted by -Fay-
KDE4 uses more resources then any other DM, if you read my post i said it needs to be lightweight.
Gnome 2.X and gnome 3.X arent exactly lightweight either, and IMO its better to start someobdy off with a DE that isnt living on borrowed time like gnome 2.X.
I wouldnt be using gnome 3.X, even if you like it for your friend, because its only on testing/sid now.
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Originally Posted by -Fay-
clementine, amarok, k3b, and wine are all anti lightweight
K3B can run just fine on systems with less power than the Mini 1018.
Clementine/amarok will as well...not that I use them, even on KDE 4.X. Bleugh. I like my media players less busy than that.
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Originally Posted by widget
If you are going to be available to maintain the the thing. Don't give the root password to your friend.
I'd be really quite annoyed if somebody did that to me. Sure, give him/her/it some warning about 'you could break stuff, dont do silly stuff', but dont withhold the root password.
Distribution: Debian Testing, Stable, Sid and Manjaro, Mageia 3, LMDE
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In my own defence, I would like to point out that the idea is to make it "idiot proof".
Personally I would install it and let them take their chances. I only had to reinstall 5 times in the first 7 days of running Linux because it was so fun to have the power over your OS. Too ignorant to repair my "improvements" or improve it in any way but I did enjoy every minute of it and learned a lot in a hurry.
Still have that first install and that 5th reinstall still works.
None the less it was obviously not idiot proof. I certainly proved that.
In my own defence, I would like to point out that the idea is to make it "idiot proof".
Even if somebody does make something 'idiot proof', someone else will build a better idiot....
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Originally Posted by widget
Personally I would install it and let them take their chances. I only had to reinstall 5 times in the first 7 days of running Linux because it was so fun to have the power over your OS. Too ignorant to repair my "improvements" or improve it in any way but I did enjoy every minute of it and learned a lot in a hurry.
LOL, yeah, been there, done that. If its something you think of as fun, or even just 'worth it for the leaning curve' its fine.
Even if somebody does make something 'idiot proof', someone else will build a better idiot....
Well said. One should never under-estimate the power of stupidity.
@-Fay-
I would set up the system and give the person the password, but tell him or her it is not a toy.
Only use it if necessary and call me if you need help, but do not call me if you screw around and break the system. You will be on your own.
Hopefully your friend will not be foolish enough to ignore your advice.
But that's me.
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