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Old 01-13-2007, 08:58 PM   #1
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Some questions about Debian


Hey! I've tried the #debian channel on IRC, but with not so much luck. People tend to send you off to google.com when you ask questions. So I hoped that this could be a place where people who knows Debian can answer in a better way.

I was just wondering where there is a good Debian how-to/tips & tricks site? Not one for setting up servers or creating users, but for adding extra repositories, enable mp3 support and other "dirty" formats, nVidia support, update to latest Gnome and so on.

Been searching around the net, and it was not so easy to find anything like this.

I hope you can answer my questions without mentioning a search tab or a search engine!

Thanks!
 
Old 01-13-2007, 09:08 PM   #2
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Google is the right answer to that question. Try "debian newbie," "Apt howto", etc.

When you have a more specific question, this is the place to get answers.
 
Old 01-13-2007, 09:16 PM   #3
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www.debian.org

Look for the installation guide & the reference guide.

If it doesn't answer all you questions, read it again.

No, seriously, 95% of all knowledge you need to know is in there.

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Old 01-13-2007, 09:22 PM   #4
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Well, I've said it before (in another thread, I admit) but if you're after the latest and greatest in applicationland, Debian might not be the distro for you. The emphasis in Debian is on stability and security. Besides, using those "dirty" formats you've mentioned is against the Free and Open Source Software principles Debian committed itself to. But, this is Linux, so you are free to choose wether or not you use the "conflicting" software on Debian or don't use Debian at all. There is a multi-media repo for Debian from a French guy (Marilat or similar) online somewhere. Like Rickh said: use Google a lot and learn how it works, 'cause everything is out there, you just need to find it!
 
Old 01-13-2007, 09:25 PM   #5
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I was just wondering where there is a good Debian how-to/tips & tricks site?
http://www.togaware.com/linux/survivor/
... I have not seen anything like the unnofficial ubuntu guide for any other distribution. It is one of the reasons ubuntu is so popular.

The debian multimedia repo is at: http://www.debian-multimedia.org/
Howto install nvidia drivers: http://home.comcast.net/~andrex/Debian-nVidia/
Howto install ATI drivers: http://www.watchland.org/dmcgraw/ati-debian.html

What else do you want?
 
Old 01-13-2007, 09:27 PM   #6
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Ok, thanks so far!

I got so confused by some guys at the IRC channel, the netinst: what Debian version is it actually, 3.1 r4?
 
Old 01-13-2007, 09:47 PM   #7
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3.1r4 is the nearly ancient Sarge install, which you absolutely don't want for a desktop. You want the netinstall for testing (Etch currently), and from that you can stay at testing (most software 4-8 weeks old), or go to unstable (hot off the presses software, usually in deb apts a few days after it is released. You can get the testing netinstall here:

http://www.us.debian.org/devel/debian-installer/

Go down almost to the bottom, where you see the line that says "netinst CD image (100-150 MB)", and select the right architecture for your machine. You can also use that disk to install, then change your /etc/apt/sources.list to unstable/sid, and apt-get update followed by apt-get dist-upgrade and you'll have debian unstable system, which is all I run.

Peace,
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Old 01-13-2007, 09:55 PM   #8
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I installed Debian yesterday. I downloaded the netinst-cd from debian.org

Do you suggest I do a apt-get dist-upgrade, which will give me an unstable system?
 
Old 01-13-2007, 10:02 PM   #9
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If you are running a desktop or laptop system, yes, I suggest unstable/sid. If you fall for letting the name scare you, then go for testing/etch. The ancient sarge/stable is so old it is painful.

It is easy to do, just open /etc/apt/sources.list as root, and change anywhere you see sarge or stable to unstable. Then you run apt-get update, and apt-get dist-upgrade and you'll have a good new kernel and modern software. You'll also see much more software available to install, as unstable is where developers work.

You can comment out (with the # symbol) the security updates, as sucurity only makes changes to stable and some testing. Unstable is not looked at by the securoty team.

Any problems, post back, I'll be on late tonight.

Peace,
JimBass

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Old 01-13-2007, 10:29 PM   #10
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A few of useful Debian tutorial sites are:

debiantutorials.org Has a nice Howto multimedia guide
http://www.debiantutorials.org/

Debian Admin
http://www.debianadmin.com/

FrontPage - Debian Wiki Follow nVidia install guide here.
http://wiki.debian.org/FrontPage

Debian Linux Tutorial
http://www.aboutdebian.com/

Debian/Ubuntu Tips & Tricks
http://www.debuntu.org/

And of course the various documentation that Debian.org has available.

Learning how to use Google:linux is the best way to find help.

Very workable list of peoples /etc/apt/sources.list
Post your source.list - LinuxQuestions.org
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=330913

Debian Configuration Post-Install - LinuxQuestions.org
http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...d.php?t=224547

Debian 4.0 Installation Guide (Etch)
http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/manual/

Debian IRC channel faq
http://www.linuks.mine.nu/debian-faq-wiki/

Using all of the above and this forum should be more than enough information to allow you to install and start using Debian.

Enjoy the wild and crazy world of Debian, any questions the people in this forum rock, just be patient.

Last edited by craigevil; 01-13-2007 at 10:43 PM.
 
Old 01-13-2007, 10:57 PM   #11
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Thanks Jim and graigevil.

I will be back soon when I'm with the Debian box.
 
Old 01-14-2007, 10:47 AM   #12
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I'm doing the dist-upgrade, but the sources I am connected to is often giving error messages, and I am down in BYTES/second not KILO BYTES/second, and it tell's me it can days, and weeks before it's done. I am on a 2 mb/s line, so my internet connection should not be the problem.

Where can I find the unstable source list? Is it possible that there is a ftp in Norway I can download it from?

Thanks!
 
Old 01-14-2007, 10:53 AM   #13
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Print a copy of your /etc/apt/sources.list file here. Did you do an "update" before you started the "dist-upgrade"?
 
Old 01-14-2007, 11:18 AM   #14
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There are plenty of mirrors. I didn't see Norway, but there are several in Northern Europe. A partial list of the mirrors can be found at this page - http://www.us.debian.org/CD/http-ftp/

As rickh said, make sure you do update first. The update usually comes in super slow, like 1 kb or in the B/s, but then I get close to 1 Mb download speed for the actual packages.

Peace,
JimBass
 
Old 01-14-2007, 11:25 AM   #15
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>Did you do an "update" before you started the "dist-upgrade"?

Yes I did. And it's still going so slow.

deb ftp://debian.cn99.com/debian/ unstable main
deb-src ftp://debian.cn99.com/debian/ unstable main

deb http://debian.oregonstate.edu/debian/ unstable main
deb-src http://debian.oregonstate.edu/debian/ unsta
ble main
 
  


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