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Old 08-15-2007, 11:15 PM   #1
craigevil
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Is it safe to use deborphan in Sid?


craigevil:/home/craig# deborphan
libpqxx-2.6.8
kdelibs
libexif-gtk5
libcurl4-openssl
libflac++5
libpoppler0c2-qt
libstlport5.1
libcdaudio1
libgpod1
libboost-filesystem1.33.1
libsdl-sound1.2
libbind9-0
libnotify1
libmpeg3-1
libcrypto++6
libsvnqt3
libsnmp9
libxapian13
gstreamer0.10-gnomevfs
libkpathsea4
libpanel-applet2-0
plib1.8.4c2
libotr2
libgd2-noxpm
libpostproc0d
libxt-java
libgnome-desktop-2
liblwres9
libjasper-1.701-1
libmagick++9c2a
libmetacity0
gstreamer0.10-fluendo-mp3
libgtksourceview1.0-0
libarts1-audiofile
libcal3d11c2a
libxul0d
libode0c2
libmyspell3c2
libdb4.2
libgail17
libiw28
liboggflac3
libpostproccvs51
libavformat0d
libept0
libx264-54
libmcrypt4
libgksu1.2-0
libglu1-xorg
guile-1.6-libs
libnautilus-burn4
libnautilus-burn3
libzvbi0
libmdbtools
libc6-i686
libdvdnav4
libkexif1
libqt4-qt3support
guile-1.8-libs
libk9copy0
libgdl-1-0
libexiv2-0.10
libwnck18
libid3-3.8.3c2a
libaldmb1
libgksuui1.0-1
libwine-twain
libarts1-xine

While most of the above are probably older libs some like the libwine-twain and libarts1-xine are probably necesary libs. So the question is : Is it safe to let deborphan remove these packages or is it better not to mess with it in Sid?
 
Old 08-16-2007, 12:34 AM   #2
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An experiment:
Code:
debian64:~$ cat /etc/apt/apt.conf
APT::Default-Release "unstable";
debian64:~$
Code:
debian64:~# deborphan
libboost-thread1.33.1
libcurl4-openssl
libdns22
libpoppler0c2
libboost-date-time1.33.1
libdb4.2
gstreamer0.10-lame
guile-1.6-libs
The only packages I really recognize there are gstreamer0.10-lame & guile-1.6-libs. I use LAME regularly, and assume that gstreamer0.10-lame has something to do with it; and I know that guile-1.6-libs has something to do with Gnome games.
Code:
debian64:~# apt-cache rdepends guile-1.6-libs

Reverse Depends:
  trackballs
  texmacs
  snd-gtk
  meep-mpi
  meep
  libgeda20
  gnucash
  gnotime
  gnome-games
  geda-utils
  geda-gsymcheck
  geda-gschem
  geda-gnetlist
  geda-gattrib
  xchat-guile
  xbindkeys
  snd-gtk
  slib
  serveez
  penggy
  mpb-mpi
  mpb
  meep-mpi
  meep
  mdk
  mailutils
  libmailutils1
  libgwrap-runtime0
  libgeda29
  libctl3
  gwave
  guile-simplesql
  guile-pg
  guile-g-wrap
  guile-db
  guile-1.6
  gnurobots
  gnucash
  gnubik
  gnotime
  glame
  geda-utils
  geda-gsymcheck
  geda-gschem
  geda-gnetlist
  geda-gattrib
  freetalk
  drgeo
  bobot++
  beast
  autogen
Again the only thing depending on guile-1.6-libs that I recognize as having been purposely installed is gnome-games. I can live without that for a bit, so I will cautiously remove that package identified by deborphan, only.
Code:
debian64:~# aptitude remove guile-1.6-libs
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information      
Initializing package states... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done  
Building tag database... Done    

The following packages will be REMOVED:
  guile-1.6-libs 
0 packages upgraded, 0 newly installed, 1 to remove and 72 not upgraded.
Need to get 0B of archives. After unpacking 2408kB will be freed.
Writing extended state information... Done
(Reading database ... 139960 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing guile-1.6-libs ...
Reading package lists... Done             
Building dependency tree       
Reading state information... Done
Reading extended state information      
Initializing package states... Done
Writing extended state information... Done
Reading task descriptions... Done         
Building tag database... Done    
debian64:~#
Verify that it is indeed gone.
Code:
debian64:~# deborphan
libboost-thread1.33.1
libcurl4-openssl
libdns22
libpoppler0c2
libboost-date-time1.33.1
libdb4.2
gstreamer0.10-lame
libguile-ltdl-1
At this point I take some time to verify that my games still work. They do. Now I feel braver, so ...
Code:
debian64:~# deborphan | xargs dpkg --purge
(Reading database ... 139863 files and directories currently installed.)
Removing libboost-thread1.33.1 ...
Purging configuration files for libboost-thread1.33.1 ...
Removing libcurl4-openssl ...
Purging configuration files for libcurl4-openssl ...
Removing libdns22 ...
Purging configuration files for libdns22 ...
Removing libpoppler0c2 ...
Purging configuration files for libpoppler0c2 ...
Removing libboost-date-time1.33.1 ...
Purging configuration files for libboost-date-time1.33.1 ...
Removing libdb4.2 ...
Removing gstreamer0.10-lame ...
Removing libguile-ltdl-1 ...
Purging configuration files for libguile-ltdl-1 ...
debian64:~#
After this, I reboot, do aptitude dist-upgrade, check that games, mp3 players, and other commonly used programs are still working. Everything seems to be functional. I don't really understand it, but it does not seem to have had any negative effects. I'll watch for a few days, and if anything does show up, I will faithfully be back to report it.
 
  


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