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Old 04-16-2020, 08:13 PM   #16
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JWJones, I appreciate your first reply. You made a good point in the next. What in the hell would I gain from posting this?
Attention, which is probably the only thing you're after.
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TBOne, Despite your ramblings you seem very interested in my story. That’s an amazingly long response to something you’re apparently very angry about. Maybe you should check that anger out with the professionals sometime.
"Ramblings" are what you have posted; look up the definitions of words before using them. And make no mistake, I am not interested in your story at all, and if you consider five lines 'amazingly long', you should get out more. Also, not 'angry' at all...you are delusional, and are most probably the same poster who has come back here time after time with almost the EXACT SAME STORY. Each time, everyone else is 'angry', etc....nothing new here.
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- Before this all happened I was only vaguely familiar with using Terminal and finding hidden folders. I’ve since read a lot and learned more than I ever wanted to so thank you for the compliment.
What compliment?? Merely pointed out the fact that on one hand you claim to be a 'newbie' who knows nothing, and in the same breath spout off the supposed things you've uncovered, that take skill. Both can't be true, so your story is (again) fitting the pattern.
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- Why did they target me? The only guess I have is that1) I was an easy target after downloading malware and 2) the malware instruction file I mentioned was my first clue that this is someone practicing on me. At first I would, for example, run a History in the terminal and see a lot of repeating commands while altering something small, as if getting it wrong and trying again. The fact that they left the commands for me to see is a clue that they needed to learn more. Further along the commands got too sophisticated for me to understand.
Oh? How would you know what they leave? Again, there is no 'they' that is targeting you...as stated, unless you have money, they are NOT INTERESTED. If you do, hire someone that actually knows what they're doing. And again your story falls apart with logical inconsistencies....you claim to have a Mac. Funny that you spend time in the terminal, because the Mac is based around a GUI, and 99% of people who have one don't use the terminal for much at all. Except YOU, of course.
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- I began getting blocked from altering settings. For example, in the directory utility I would remove root access to my usernames that didn’t have it before. That ability was removed. Recently I was unable to open many apps or start any advanced startup mode like recovery. Recovery seems to be the answer to a few things but all of the startup functions are bypassed and the Mac is started normally.
Right, because again a 'hacker' is not only going to give you a nickname, allude to the fact they are targeting you for a 'client', but go ahead and make it bleedingly obvious that your machine had been compromised. Because they're skilled enough to 'hack' your machine with it being disconnected, etc., but not skilled enough to remove a log file? Or not change settings that you'd notice?? Right...again, your story is just that....a story.
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The “ton more information I have is verbal at this point since I’m unable to get files out of the Mac. That’s what I meant about that. I can take photos of open files or greyes out settings. My question was meant to find out what file or text or visual would help anyone to understand.
And here we are, yet again..."I can't get the proof!!! I can only USE the computer, but can't copy/paste anything, etc, etc..." Same story we've heard for more than a year now. Makes zero sense.
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- I did submit a form to ic3. I was asking to see what Proof A couple FORUM users asked for.
ANY proof...wild speculation won't do it. You say there are 'things in terminal history...yet don't post them. You claim things are 'greyed out', don't post those either. You get told point-blank to talk to Apple support since you have a Mac, yet post HERE (again, hot on the heels of the last delusional poster with the same claims).

And why can't you post what you gave ic3?? Or will 'they' stop you?
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- The magic way in which they connected after WiFi was removed: From what I’ve read it sounds possible to Telnet or SSH in without WiFi. It’s then hypothetically possible to use Bluetooth to get into nearby devices. This is what I think could’ve happened to our cheap Galaxy phones. they got into something with cellular. Before you shout that our devices were it should’ve been off we didn’t think to turn off a few devices such as our watches and iPad.
Again, no....any network service needs a network interface. And bluetooth cannot be used like that, least of all on a Mac. Even IF you got past the part of having to pair devices, you'd still need to be within 30 feet for bluetooth. Why don't you go check your closet to see if your evil hacker is hiding there?
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DC901, - Apple was called. And Google and AT&T. The message was about the same. They suggested I go into a store (Not open) and call the police (done).
Thanks for the Mac forum suggestion. I’m a bit gunshot now but I’ll check it out.
You were told to go to a Mac/Apple forum in the first reply. And they told you to go to a store, because they (like us), know there isn't a problem.

Again, the kind of help you need won't be found on a tech support forum. Seek help.
 
Old 04-16-2020, 09:53 PM   #17
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- Before this all happened I was only vaguely familiar with using Terminal and finding hidden folders. I’ve since read a lot and learned more than I ever wanted to so thank you for the compliment.
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Funny that you spend time in the terminal, because the Mac is based around a GUI, and 99% of people who have one don't use the terminal for much at all. Except YOU, of course.
Not saying any of this is true or isn't, but he did say "I was only vaguely familiar with using Terminal."

For the record, I am a Mac user that uses the terminal. I guess that makes me the 1%. There are a lot more of us than you think. But then, I also use Linux and BSD.

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Old 04-17-2020, 08:06 AM   #18
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Not saying any of this is true or isn't, but he did say "I was only vaguely familiar with using Terminal." For the record, I am a Mac user that uses the terminal. I guess that makes me the 1%. There are a lot more of us than you think. But then, I also use Linux and BSD.
Understand totally, but the OP also started out by saying how much of a 'newbie' he was. If you're an inexperienced computer user, you're probably not going to hop onto the terminal for much at all, especially on a Mac. I don't use them much, but I hardly EVER see instructions for software installation that require a terminal at all.

And the 'hacker' somehow is magic...they can connect without a network connection via telnet or ssh (???), then use bluetooth to connect to other devices. And this skilled person is somehow dense enough to leave files laying around, change things so the person notices, and leave lots of entries in an easily-edited log file???

No, sorry...this post is the same delusion we've seen over the past year, under different names.
 
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Old 04-17-2020, 08:47 AM   #19
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And the 'hacker' somehow is magic...they can connect without a network connection via telnet or ssh (???), then use bluetooth to connect to other devices. And this skilled person is somehow dense enough to leave files laying around, change things so the person notices, and leave lots of entries in an easily-edited log file???

No, sorry...this post is the same delusion we've seen over the past year, under different names.
Agreed, it just doesn't hold up.
 
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Old 04-18-2020, 02:53 AM   #20
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TB0ne, ever heard of "the benefit of doubt"?
I tend to agree with you now, after OP posted more, but I think your first remark ("Sounds familiar") was premature.
I can imagine more than one person on this planet being awed by what they don't understand, and drawing totally wrong conclusions ("Well everybody's talking about getting hacked, surely that's what's happening here!") without any fact checking.

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If you don’t believe me then lets pretend it’s a hypothetical question.
No.

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Can you suggest what I can use as proof.
A screenshot of ChromeOS on your iPhone.
People would be very interested in that!

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I made one mistake. The chrome files I saw were on my Android, not my iPhone.
Oh.
Well even so, a screenshot of that would be nice. Or rather a photo, because we also need to see the hardware.

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I’ve read through dozens and dozens of files files so if anyone sees anything they recognize I can verify what I’ve seen. One thing that I noticed was that the sometimes used the word “Janus” as a pseudonym for the victim, as well as “client”. I recently read an article while doing research and saw that Janus is also the name of a hacking “program” seen on 2019. I don’t know if that helps.
It certainly helps your paranoia, but does not constitute technical information about what is happening on your devices.

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I have a ton more information if anyone is willing to entertain my request for help.
Why should we have to ask for it?
Anyhow, that's a ton of unrelated information. It does not constitute technical information about what is happening on your devices.
 
Old 04-18-2020, 09:10 AM   #21
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TB0ne, ever heard of "the benefit of doubt"?
I tend to agree with you now, after OP posted more, but I think your first remark ("Sounds familiar") was premature. I can imagine more than one person on this planet being awed by what they don't understand, and drawing totally wrong conclusions ("Well everybody's talking about getting hacked, surely that's what's happening here!") without any fact checking.
I can also imagine it as well, and had the OP posted something more believable with a story that actually made sense, I'd have given that benefit of the doubt. However, I am merely thinking back to the threads that are *VERY* similar to this over the past two years...ALL of them have the exact same hallmarks, devices, wild scenarios, no proof, and (if you look carefully), speech patterns.

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  • WIDE amount of devices being hacked (iPhone, Android, Windows, Mac, Linux)
  • Poster is ALWAYS a 'newbie' or a novice.
  • Poster similarly seems to be able to (as a novice), uncover 'evidence' that would take someone skilled
  • Technical terms used in ways that make zero sense, but sure would SOUND good to someone who didn't know better.=
  • Always involves police and lawyers; investigations are always 'in progress' somehow...but the poster always needs proof (you'd think the police would actually gather evidence)
  • NEVER have any idea why they're being targeted...always a mystery, aside from speculation.
  • Devices aren't connected to anything, yet they can still be 'hacked'
  • These skilled, evil hackers that can somehow (magically!) get into a device that's not connected, are clumsy and stupid enough to 'grey out' options on programs and leave traces, so they can be noticed easily
For example:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...em-4175625988/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...lp-4175627482/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ck-4175632746/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...es-4175659816/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...os-4175656201/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ed-4175664440/

And the posters never post more than a few times, before ANOTHER account is created...notice the trend in the above posts? Early 2018, later 2018, early 2019, late 2019, and now (fairly) early 2020. Almost like one person just coming back time and again (even admitted it once), with the same type of story. Benefit of the doubt went out the window with the "installing Chrome OS on my iPhone", and similar things in their first post.
 
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Old 04-18-2020, 12:54 PM   #22
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For example:
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...em-4175625988/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...lp-4175627482/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ck-4175632746/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...es-4175659816/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...os-4175656201/
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ed-4175664440/

And the posters never post more than a few times, before ANOTHER account is created...notice the trend in the above posts? Early 2018, later 2018, early 2019, late 2019, and now (fairly) early 2020. Almost like one person just coming back time and again (even admitted it once), with the same type of story. Benefit of the doubt went out the window with the "installing Chrome OS on my iPhone", and similar things in their first post.
Thanks for the links. I'm guessing we've heard the last of this most recent round of this BS. But still I wonder, what's to be gained from posts like this? I just don't get it.
 
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However politically incorrect, I believe this is a case of one of two things:

1) Paranoia as a result of a chemical dependency (methamphetamine, crack cocaine or other similar substance)
2) Mental illness

I am not trying to disparage anyone but rational humans do not make statements like this. I have experienced #1 first hand because a close family member was a meth addict: they expressed extreme paranoid delusions about surveillance in many forms: Internet, physical, etc. The rants paralleled almost exactly like what TB0ne linked to. The second issue I have no experience with but certain types of mental illness can cause paranoid delusions.

Not sure posts like this are really trying to gain anything, except maybe the posters feel like they need to express their views or imagined problems and this is safe medium in which to do so.

My .02.
 
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Old 04-18-2020, 02:17 PM   #24
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However politically incorrect, I believe this is a case of one of two things:

1) Paranoia as a result of a chemical dependency (methamphetamine, crack cocaine or other similar substance)
2) Mental illness

I am not trying to disparage anyone but rational humans do not make statements like this. I have experienced #1 first hand because a close family member was a meth addict: they expressed extreme paranoid delusions about surveillance in many forms: Internet, physical, etc. The rants paralleled almost exactly like what TB0ne linked to. The second issue I have no experience with but certain types of mental illness can cause paranoid delusions.

Not sure posts like this are really trying to gain anything, except maybe the posters feel like they need to express their views or imagined problems and this is safe medium in which to do so.

My .02.
In light of these possibilities, it makes more sense. I have had friends that were chemically addicted, and they had some EPIC paranoid delusions, so I have also seen it first-hand. I guess I was assuming normal mostly healthy-minded individuals, when clearly that's probably not the case.
 
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TB0ne, I remember those cases well.
All of them disturbed minds, or trolls, or both.
But I don't see much indication that they're the same person. I don't see those similarities in style either.
 
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TB0ne, I remember those cases well.
All of them disturbed minds, or trolls, or both.
But I don't see much indication that they're the same person. I don't see those similarities in style either.
Agreed about the type of person, but I am only going by the timelines and similarities in stories. Now, I am NOT saying 100% they're the same person, mind you...but things line up pretty well. And some of the syntax and terms also line up. Total speculation on my part. There was one more I didn't link to above, which also fits the pattern, but its of no matter.
 
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Old 04-25-2020, 10:40 AM   #27
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My Mac and my iPhone has been hacked and
Take them to an Apple Store.

(I'm not really sure what other answer you were expecting).

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