Install CentOS 7 packages in CentOS 8 ?

taylorkh · 01-29-2021, 05:13 PM

gnome-commander relies on some obsolete, depreciated packages such as gnome-vfs. The maintainer is actively working on upgrading out of this situation but apparently there is a LOT to do. gnome-commander can not be built on Ubuntu 20.04 nor Mint 20 as gnome-vfs and a few other bits are not available in the Upuntu 20.04 vintage repos. Except it can. It is a simple matter of adding the 18.04 Universe repo to bring in the necessary packages.

Arch/Manjaro via the AUR repo will build the required supporting packages from scratch as needed. How exactly I do not know but it works like magic!

Which brings me to the CentOS et.al. family. gnome-commander will build on CentOS 7. I do not believe CentOS 8 has the necessary packages to built gnome-commander. It has been a while since I tried. I am downloading a CentOS 8 image as I type this - and will be downloading after I have finished typing this

My question is... can I install packages such as gnome-vfs2-devel from the CentOS 7 vintage repos (epel I think) into CentOS 8? I think the answer is no as the package name has the OS version. e.g. gnome-vfs2-devel-2.24.4-14.el7.x86_64.rpm

Can I build CentOS 8 packages from CentOS 7 source?

TIA,

Ken

ondoho · 01-30-2021, 09:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by taylorkh

Arch/Manjaro via the AUR repo will build the required supporting packages from scratch as needed.

This is not true.
All gnome-commander dependencies are from official Arch repos.
It does not depend on gvfs or gnome-vfs at all.
I suggest you grab the latest source release and build it yourself.

taylorkh · 01-30-2021, 12:48 PM

Thanks ondoho,

I am familiar with building GCDR from source. I wrote the instructions which are on the web site for CentOS 7 and Debian, Ubuntu and Mint. When I first installed it on Manjaro - that was my first experience with that distro. I don't recall if I tried building it by downloading the source manually. I did succeed in building it by pamac builg gnome-commander. This mirrored the git repo and went from there. I do recall having to build gnome-vfs as well. I am in the process of setting up a virtual machine to try it again from the beginning. I build a VMWare install FOUR times before getting the screen autosizing to work. It seems that VMWare does not like a virtual machine named "test". 4th try, same steps and options named vmManjaroTest and it works fine. Let me download a train load of updates and I will see if I can remember how I built GCDR before.

That experiment aside, my goal is to figure out how to setup a development environment to build GCDR on CantOS 8.

Ken

Update: The screen sizing issue in VMWare is apparently a known issue going back some while. Why my original virtual machine works - I have no idea. I do have a couple of workarounds which I will investigate. Back to gnome-commander

Code:

[ken@vmManjaroTest Desktop]$ sudo pacman -S gnome-commander
[sudo] password for ken: 
error: target not found: gnome-commander

[ken@vmManjaroTest Desktop]$ pamac build gnome-commander
Preparing...
Cloning gnome-commander build files...
Checking gnome-commander dependencies...
Resolving dependencies...
Checking inter-conflicts...

To install (23):
  m4                1.4.18-3                                   core   173.4*kB
  autoconf          2.69-7                                     core   605.4*kB
  libmicrohttpd     0.9.72-1   (Required By: binutils)         core   210.4*kB
  elfutils          0.182-1    (Required By: binutils)         core   635.4*kB
  binutils          2.35.1-1                                   core   5.6*MB
  pkgconf           1.7.3-1                                    core   59.6*kB
  libmpc            1.2.1-1    (Required By: gcc)              core   72.1*kB
  gcc               10.2.0-4                                   core   33.1*MB
  fakeroot          1.25.3-1                                   core   71.9*kB
  flex              2.6.4-3                                    core   304.4*kB
  automake          1.16.2-3                                   core   617.9*kB
  bison             3.7.2-1                                    core   771.8*kB
  patch             2.7.6-8                                    core   94.7*kB
  gc                8.0.4-4    (Required By: make)             extra  240.3*kB
  guile             2.2.6-2    (Required By: make)             extra  6.7*MB
  make              4.3-3                                      core   493.2*kB
  libgsf            1.14.47-1  (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  327.8*kB
  exiv2             0.27.3-1   (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  2.1*MB
  python2           2.7.18-2   (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  14.5*MB
  itstool           1:2.0.6-2  (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  19.9*kB
  mallard-ducktype  1.0.2-6    (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  81.9*kB
  yelp-tools        3.38.0-1   (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  23.5*kB
  libunique         1.1.6-8    (Required By: gnome-commander)  extra  32.2*kB
To build (1):
  gnome-commander   1.10.3-1                                   AUR

Total download size: 66.8*MB
Total installed size: 343.1*MB

Edit build files : [e] 
Apply transaction ? [e/y/N]

After running the transaction I observed that a bunch of packages were downloaded and installed. The gnome-commander source was downloaded, unpacked and the build process started. It ended up with this message

Code:

...
checking for GTK... yes
checking for GNOMEVFS... no
configure: error: gnome-vfs >= 2.0.0 not found
==> ERROR: A failure occurred in build().
    Aborting...

I then ran

Code:

[ken@vmManjaroTest Desktop]$ pamac build gnome-vfs

This it did and then I was able to build of gnome-commander.

ondoho · 01-31-2021, 02:01 AM

You are right.
I just tried, it needs gnome-vfs which isn't listed as a dependency. The last maintainer even commented on that.
I flagged the gnome-commander AUR package as out of date now - because until someone takes over and fixes that, it is.

taylorkh · 01-31-2021, 06:04 AM

Quote:

I flagged the gnome-commander AUR package as out of date now - because until someone takes over and fixes that, it is.

I am not familiar with the workings of AUR other than to the degree that I have installed several packages on Manjaro from that repo. With the package "out of date" is it still available for use? And "fixes that" - fixes what? I know that the gnome-commander maintainer is working on removing the gnome-vfs dependencies but they are deeply rooted in the program. As far as maintaining the AUR package - it was recently updated for gnome-commander 1.10.3.

Thanks again,

Ken