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Old 06-28-2020, 12:08 AM   #1
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Recommend Me Software : To encrypt cloud data in a shared folder?


I am trying to find a system to securely encrypt files headed to the cloud. Most solutions I have looked into make a single large file container, so any change to the data will need the entire thing to be uploaded, so I need something that can encrypt individual files on my share.

I tried Cryptomator but I couldn't get the virtual drive to mount in linux. I used to use it on Windows. Basically it was a app that made a virtual drive that was mounted that you placed files into and they were on the fly encrypted and placed in the dropbox folder.

I would prefer a automated system where I just unlock a dir and save stuff into it or something, but any solution would be cool.

Thanks any ideas would be welcome (remember I am a noob!)
 
Old 06-28-2020, 04:36 AM   #2
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I am trying to find a system to securely encrypt files headed to the cloud. Most solutions I have looked into make a single large file container, so any change to the data will need the entire thing to be uploaded, so I need something that can encrypt individual files on my share.
Encrypting every single file individually is easy, but a lot of work. Are you sure that's what you actually want?

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I tried Cryptomator but I couldn't get the virtual drive to mount in linux. I used to use it on Windows. Basically it was a app that made a virtual drive that was mounted that you placed files into and they were on the fly encrypted and placed in the dropbox folder.

I would prefer a automated system where I just unlock a dir and save stuff into it or something, but any solution would be cool.
This does not seem to fit your desire to "encrypt individual files"???
So I'm a little unclear about what you actually want, but I use encfs. It does what the second part of your question asks for.
Just install it and set it up with any number of very simple tutorials available on the web, e.g. this one

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Old 06-28-2020, 07:37 AM   #3
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You don't give information about your system. If you use KDE / Plasma, it comes with something called "vaults" (sitting in the system-part bottom right in the menu). When I last looked, it could do exactly what you want.
 
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I use BodHi... I do not know what KDE or Plasma is.

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Encrypting every single file individually is easy, but a lot of work. Are you sure that's what you actually want?
Well, if it encrypts say a directory or a directory tree into a solid block of encrypted data, then that entire block gets sent to the cloud.. then any change you make means the entrie block needs to be uploaded again.

On PC... I just had a work folder that I used naturally.. saving editing etc etc. Each individual file would encode if changed or a file added, and then upload.. so the cloud would have only encoded files. So say I wanted to edit one of my files, I could and not have to upload a massive block.


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This does not seem to fit your desire to "encrypt individual files"??? So I'm a little unclear about what you actually want
Well I used that on PC, before I migrated to BodHi, but I can not get it to work. It dose not seem to mount the disk correctly.

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Old 06-28-2020, 08:00 AM   #5
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KDE / Plasma is a desktop environment, like Gnome, XFCE, Mate, Cinnamon... No idea what bodhi uses . Correction: Found it, it uses the Moksha Desktop, whatever that is.
 
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KDE / Plasma is a desktop environment, like Gnome, XFCE, Mate, Cinnamon... No idea what bodhi uses . Correction: Found it, it uses the Moksha Desktop, whatever that is.
BodHi is the fourm I am posting in, it is a Ubuntu based distro I liked the msot after trying what seemed like a zillion different things.
 
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Old 06-28-2020, 08:14 AM   #7
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I think you should try encfs.
 
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Old 06-28-2020, 11:53 AM   #8
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Questionbot, I think you learned in another thread you can in fact install kde apps if you want. The first kde app you install will bring in all the dependencies needed for kde apps, then other kde apps use them too. Same like QT apps, the first one you install brings in a bunch of stuff. Not that I'm recommending it or not cuz I dont know, but I believe that app JZ mentioned could be installed with
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sudo apt install plasma-vault
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But of course a terminal app, enlightenment app (rare) or gtk/gnome app would not need as much dependencies cuz you already have them with Bodhi (i.e. ephoto and terminology are enlightenment apps, epiphany and leafpad are gnome apps (gtk=gnome toolkit i think)), and terminal apps that are graphical usally use I think x11 which is included bodhi too, but now I'm just starting to guess... but you get the idea. If you'd installed kubuntu instead of bodhi you'd have kde and not gnome already I believe, and certainly no enlightenment.

And yeah, you posted in bodhi subforum but some helpful LQ members check all new posts and answer any question they think they can help, sometimes not paying attention to where it was posted. You can add your distro to your profile then it shows up under your name beside your posts if you want.

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I see.
I think you should try encfs.
saw this when I tried to install it.... think I'll look for another option... but yeah, that did seem like it had the features I like.
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Old 06-28-2020, 07:04 PM   #10
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sudo apt install plasma-vault
I installed this and it installed a zillion things with it... but I can not work out how to use it. No icon got put into my menu and I can not seem to run it from console.

So I couldn't test this encryption thing.
 
Old 06-28-2020, 07:13 PM   #11
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i don't use any such software, but the user that posted this reply has considerable skill and knowledge from my experience. their recommendation of cryptomator seems to do what you are asking if i am reading this page and understanding your preferences correctly.
 
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but I can not work out how to use it. No icon got put into my menu and I can not seem to run it from console.
you might try looking in /usr/share/applications to see if a .desktop file got created but didn't make it into your menus.
 
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i don't use any such software, but the user that posted this reply has considerable skill and knowledge from my experience. their recommendation of cryptomator seems to do what you are asking if i am reading this page and understanding your preferences correctly.
I tired this one.. this is actually what I use on windows... but I couldn't get it to work on BodHi. I did mention it in my OP. Basically it seems to run fine.. but it will not mount the virtual drive.

If you know how to get the drive mount working.. then that would be awesome.
 
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I did mention it in my OP.
apologies for missing that. read through the posts too fast + not enough actual knowledge on the subject = just plain didn't see it when a thread came up on another site, it reminded me of this one.

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If you know how to get the drive mount working.. then that would be awesome.
i totally claim ignorance, but there is a software questions section here and plenty of guru's/senior members who seem to help out over there.
 
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saw this when I tried to install it.... think I'll look for another option... but yeah, that did seem like it had the features I like.
Fair enough, I only use it locally.
There's more to choose from: https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...est_encryption
IIRC ecryptfs is very similar to encfs in terms of setting it up.
 
  


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