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Old 11-17-2020, 08:47 AM   #1
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What's difference between 4MLinux v. 4MLinuxServer?


Hi, as for a regular as home pc user - can someone please explain to me the difference of software, purpose, between 4MLinux v. 4MLinuxServer?
I did read the info on web pages of each please, but I just don't fully understand. Please I'm not Trolling here & I'm sorry for bothering.

When I've tried run live isos of 4MLinuxServer & 4MLinux - I couldn't see any difference between them, not even in Menu of these isos or software.
Of course I can not run it both at the same time so can't be sure for 100%.
It confuses me more 'cos then I can't recognize in which live iso am I right now - I've got all of them and start from multiboot iso disk so I have to choose-start one at the time.
(I've just got an idea right now to copy out from each iso & compare files:
system.jwmrc + 4mlinuX)


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When I open 4MLinux web site HOME (automatic) - it shows:
TheSSS 34.2 released

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When I open 4MLinux web site ABOUT - it shows:
4MLinux is ...
... with a strong focus on the following four "M"...
One of them is ... - Miniserver (DNS, FTP, HTTP, MySQL, NFS, Proxy, SMTP, SSH, and Telnet), ...

The latest stable version is:
4MLinux 34.1 (download)

A small demo of the 4MLinux Server is running here (PHP5) and here (PHP7).
... and bottom right icon links to TheSSS.4mlinux.com

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When I open 4MLinux web site http://thesss.4mlinux.com/ - it shows:
... extremely tiny and fast set of server software ... designed for system administrators ...
.... is based on the 4MLinux Server 34.1.


Q: So is it like this:
4MLinux - miniserver? Use on 1 home pc.
4MLinuxServer - miniserver & server? Based on 4MLinux. Does no sence to use it on 1 home pc. Or does?
TheSSS 4MLinux - server only - for system administrators. Based on 4MLinuxServer. Does no sence to use it on 1 home pc. Or does?

Thank you for help.
 
Old 11-17-2020, 10:50 AM   #2
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Don't worry - just playing & trying to figure out as laik how to see the difference between 4MLinux & 4MLinuxServer:
So if I compared those 2 files '4mlinuX' & 'system.jwmrc' each other from 4MLinux & from 4MLinuxServer - on each iso the are exactly the same:
4MLinux34.1:/usr/bin/4mlinuX = 4MLinux34.1server:/usr/bin/4mlinuX
4MLinux34.1:/usr/share/jwm/system.jwmrc = 4MLinux34.1server:/usr/share/jwm/system.jwmrc

(which means the Menu & commands are the same in both isos I guess)
OK - this way doesn't work for me.


If I compared whole 'fresh' filesystems after booted into these 2 isos 4MLinux & 4MLinuxServer:
4MLinux34.1: 115766 files, 15.9 GB
4MLinux34.1server: 136330 files, 16.3 GB

OK - I can see now.
So I'll go try make both lists of it and then compare ...
(just an idea - I also can extract both isos and compare it :-).
 
Old 11-18-2020, 10:25 AM   #3
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Hi,

The output of the "server" command in 4MLinux:
Code:
List of server daemons:
firewall --> iptables (4MLinux Firewall)
ftpd --> BusyBox (via inetd)
httpd --> BusyBox (via inetd)
nfsd --> NFS daemon (standalone)
proxyd --> Polipo (standalone)
sshd --> OpenSSH (standalone)
telnetd --> BusyBox (via inetd)
tftpd --> BusyBox (via inetd)
serverd --> script to control all servers

Example of start/stop commands:
ftpd start --> start FTP server
ftpd stop --> stop FTP server
ftpd restart --> restart FTP server
ftpd test --> test FTP server

Another example:
serverd start --> start all servers
serverd stop --> stop all servers
serverd restart --> restart all servers
serverd test --> test all servers

root@4MLinux:~$
The same command executed in 4MServer gives the following output:
Code:
List of server daemons:
dnsd --> BIND (standalone)
firewall --> iptables (4MLinux Firewall)
ftpd --> ProFTPD (standalone)
httpd --> Apache (standalone)
mysqld --> MariaDB (standalone)
nfsd --> NFS daemon (standalone)
proxyd --> Polipo (standalone)
smtpd --> Postfix (standalone)
sshd --> OpenSSH (standalone)
telnetd --> BusyBox (via inetd)
tftpd --> BusyBox (via inetd)
serverd --> script to control all servers

Example of start/stop commands:
ftpd start --> start FTP server
ftpd stop --> stop FTP server
ftpd restart --> restart FTP server
ftpd test --> test FTP server

Execute 'php7' ('php5') to enable PHP7 (PHP5).
Execute 'webmin' to perform its initial setup.
The 4MLinux Server WebGUI: http://localhost/admin
root@4MLinux:~3
Additionally, 4MServer has scripting languages (PHP5, PHP7, Perl, Python2, Python3) and Webmin available out of the box.

.

Last edited by zk1234; 11-18-2020 at 10:33 AM.
 
Old 11-23-2020, 01:14 PM   #4
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OK, that's a lot of help for me & goods enough.
Thank you zk .
 
  


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