Yep thanks, corrected!

With regards to your connection problem, as Knightron explained, the connections to 1e100.net, a.k.a. Google (1e100 is scientific notation for 1 googol) is just Opera getting the the most recent "Safe Browsing" list, using the Google "Safe Browsing" feature (Firefox and Safari also use this service by the way).

Your "every move" is not tracked see Google's privacy policy (the section entitled "Information Google receives when you use the Safe Browsing feature on Chrome or other browsers").

As for disabling it, I'd have to look into it. It might be possible already. At the moment I am at home, running Linux and don't have Blink based Opera installed.

Seems to be a premature post. Deleted, the next post is the real one.

jlinkels

Seamonkey: Speed dials do not sync. No sound in Youtube, not in Flash, not in HTML. After installing speed dials (installing, in Opera they came included) the navigation bar (?) which normally showed the addess showed the speed dial button only, and I had to re-create the complete bar with stop, back, forward, reload buttons and address field.

jlinkels

Well the sound issue is probably something else entirely. I use Seamonkey and works just fine, i even have hw decoding on youtube if i want to (problem is that it crashes flash on other sites). You use 32 bit build on 64 bit system?

The speed dial not syncing through Firefox sync is logical since its a separate extension. I given up on it and use the bookmarks.

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I downloaded and installed the linux version. As it seems it is 32 bits, 64 bits is available but considered "unofficial". AFAIK Flash is also 32 bits, that is, it installs on 64-bits but it still uses 32-bits libraries. And yes, my system is 64-bits.

I know things which are more fun than setting up 20 speed dial buttons on every computer I use. I know it can be explained, it doesn't mean I am happy with it. I think I was spoiled by Opera.

jlinkels

+1 on sound. I have no problems with sound and SeaMonkey on any site.

Don't use speed dial and very much prefer "plain, old fashion" bookmarks.
:-)

The "official" builds are 32 bit. Problem is that Flash has both 32 and 64 bit versions available. If you install other plugins from the repos on the 64 bit system, 32 bit browsers cant use them. Having 32 bit browser and 32 bit Flash on a 64 bit sytem requires certain other 32 bit libraries for sound, such as libasound2.
Best is to use the "unofficial" version, it has no issues, it works just fine. Might not update automatically though.

I too used bookmarks extensively because i could sync them in Opera, but thats the way it is...

Let my try that 64 bit thingy. Indeed, the Flash plugin which is installed on the computer could have been the 64-bit version. I don't remember. I do recall that one day 64-bit Flash was announced, and then again it was said it was only 64-bit packaged but using 32-bit libraries.

Since Flash is a dead-end road anyway I was more interested in HTML5. Would installing 64-bits SeaMonkey make any difference for that as well?

I have discovered where the settings for the plugins are stored, including speed dials. It looks like an ordinary text file. Despite of the warning not to edit the file I want to try if I can't set up a periodic rsync or so to perform a poor man's sync action. After the sound is fixed of course.

jlinkels

Thanks for the reply.

Given google's reputation, do you really think they are not keeping a log of who requested what?


You cannot disable "Safe Browsing" in the "new" Opera.

I did not have time to check as a Beta 2 MX 14 came out and I am beta testing it for some friends. It (MX 14 Beta 2) cam with qupzilla and I have not configured it yet or played
with it enough yet. I blew away the previous Beta 1 install since you posted.

Sorry. I was not ignoring you. Just a busy Linux year for me.
There is a Opera repo in my sources.list if I wish to use it
and I know Anti uses Opera a bunch. I just did the Firefox nightly
as a LARK while testing for Jerry and Anti.

From this, in another thread,

It appears it won't be too much longer before we have a version of the Opera Chrome Clone for Linux.
With the m$-windows version you cannot turn off "safe browsing," and bookmarks are not really bookmarks, and I don't think, but could be wrong, you can't turn off automatic updates. If that is the case with the Linux version, I won't use it, but will give it an initial "test drive."
We will have to wait and see.

I'll certainly test it as well.

If Opera developers kept the same user interface but the different engine, I might not even be unhappy. Currently the Chrome engine is as good as Opera's (12.14) if not better. Too many sites in Opera crank the CPU usage up to 100% and when I leave Opera on overnight I might have run out of memory the next morning.

I have to laugh at "safe browsing" if this refers to safe browsing with Google. In Chrome it is much harder to remove the confidential data stored in the browser than to save it. It can be done all right, but it requires a lot of actions and googling as to how to get rid of the data. Once I had to install Chrome on a Window$ computer to access my data at Google drive. Installing was a breeze, I start using it right away and it took me over half an hour before I believed the next person could not use my private data.

And I still can't see my shortcuts, passwords and bookmarks in Chrome on all the computers I use. Opera does it with 3 mouse clicks.

jlinkels

Well, the Opera chrome clone bears no resemblance to the "old" Opera (< 12.16) in anyway.

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Okay...but where is the source code? They don't expect me to prefer a closed source Chromium build over Alien Bob's great work, do they?

There is a project in development which aims at recreating the Opera 12 browser:
http://otter-browser.org/

Apperently more people feel sorry to see the once best browser in the world die. I haven't have had the chance to test it. Although it is certainly interesting, writing a modern browser is an all but trivial task. I sincerely hope they are succesful.

jlinkels

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