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lordadamson 03-19-2014 11:57 PM

I want to create a linux that is designed to run on my machine
 
A part of the problem why linux on desktop has issues is that neither it is supported by hardware manifactureres (like windows) nor there is hardware created especially to run linux (like mac).

that's why for a new user it is very likely to face driver issues and other random bugs.

the idea is: creating a laptop that runs a special linux designed specially for it. (was this done already?)

for now, I want to tailor a linux to my existing laptop.

is linux from scratch what I am looking for?

hilyard 03-20-2014 02:33 AM

First off, there is little that is random about driver issues.
Next, please tell us your basic hardware specs so that the question, "(was it done already)" may be answered.

But generally, given a new user, I'd say download and do a Basic install of a distro that offers such options. Then add software packages to suit.
Ones with which I am familiar that do such are antiX and Salix, but there are many others, including a Minimal Install of ubuntu.

qlue 03-20-2014 03:07 AM

May I suggest you start with Crunchbang Linux and add packages you specifically want?
If you need help configuring menus etc. just ask! ;)

snowday 03-20-2014 06:32 AM

What are your "driver issues and other random bugs"? Linux probably already is tailored to your laptop (due to the hard work of the kernel developers) and possibly there are just 1 or 2 easily resolved driver issues or bugs. Maybe we can help you resolve these issues, so you don't have to reinvent the wheel. ;)

snowday 03-20-2014 06:33 AM

By the way, many distros have a list of certified hardware, this is not a new concept:

http://www.ubuntu.com/certification/
http://www.redhat.com/resourcelibrar...ified-hardware

Shadow_7 03-20-2014 06:34 AM

The differences between distros is basically the availability of packages, the versions of packages, and the default configuration of packages. At the end of the day they all run basically the same software and going to LFS doesn't gain you much if anything.

Drakeo 03-20-2014 06:41 AM

lordadamson you really need to do your home work there has been a mac puppy linux for a long time there are many distro's that include the little way bar at the bottom. do a little more searching and you will find A mac flavor of Linux trust me. you just need to search a little more.

jamison20000e 03-20-2014 06:55 AM

Hi. More than likely you need to enable the non-free repositories? https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/Ubuntu
http://askubuntu.com/questions/47623...in-my-computer
*buntus are based on Debian (:twocents:) I suggest trying it... http://serverfault.com/questions/240...ages-on-debian (Unless you are on a ma¢?)

Here is a recent post about LFS: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questi...ch-4175498646/

Plus, the second link in my signature maybe somewhat helpful as well? Best wishes and have fun. :)

TB0ne 03-20-2014 09:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lordadamson (Post 5137866)
A part of the problem why linux on desktop has issues is that neither it is supported by hardware manifactureres (like windows) nor there is hardware created especially to run linux (like mac).

that's why for a new user it is very likely to face driver issues and other random bugs. the idea is: creating a laptop that runs a special linux designed specially for it. (was this done already?) for now, I want to tailor a linux to my existing laptop.

is linux from scratch what I am looking for?

Feel free to do what you like...but it is pointless.
  1. Even WINDOWS has driver problems. Try getting any laptop to work 100% with a standard Windows DVD installation. You won't...Windows will have to go out and download drivers (IF it can find them), which is no different than Linux.
  2. openSUSE, Fedora, Mint, Debian, and Ubuntu ALL will work very well on pretty much any laptop. How much tweaking you will have to do, depends on the hardware. Needless to say, anything with exotic devices may take a bit, but your standard installation will probably work just fine
  3. And lets say you do 'create a laptop'...congratulations...you have just duplicated the efforts of all of the existing laptop manufacturers for no reason. Mainly because the SECOND a new version of Linux comes up, someone will want to update it. Someone will want your laptop but have it run Fedora, instead of whatever you put on it. And you're RIGHT BACK WHERE YOU STARTED...with driver issues.
Linux isn't hampered by driver issues...it's hampered by momentum. People are USED TO Windows, and don't want to learn anything else.

snowday 03-20-2014 09:16 AM

The easiest way to achieve your goal, lordadamson, is simply to purchase an Android phone/tablet, a Chromebook, or similar device. These devices are designed specifically to run Linux, they come with Linux pre-installed, they auto-update, and millions of people with no previous Linux experience are happily running Android/Chrome without "driver issues and other random bugs."

The title of your thread "I want to create a linux that is designed to run on my machine" implies that existing Linux distros are "designed to NOT run on your machine" and that is completely ludicrous--who would deliberately set out to design an operating system that is difficult to install/use? :P

JWJones 03-20-2014 09:18 AM

If you're looking to do a custom installation tailored to your specific hardware, consider Gentoo.

jamison20000e 03-20-2014 09:59 AM

Keeping in mind we still don't know what hardware, is NDISwrapper still around? :) Sometimes finding\configuring the right drivers is hard but only rarely impossible. (Mostly on the newest or obscure devices I would think?) And, building from scratch you still need them.

lordadamson 03-20-2014 02:07 PM

I feel like everybody here is shouting at me :D

okay let me clarify what I meant, maybe I didn't clearly explain myself in the original post.

I have used windows my whole life (I know it has driver issues).
I have used linux and BSD distros for the past few years.
I have used mac as well.

the best experience was on a mac. because I never had driver issues, I never had random bugs.
now I do know that these bugs and driver issues can be solved after searching and asking on forums and such (I've been there, trust me). but that's not what I want, I don't want to fix these problems. I want them to never exist (like on a mac).

that is why I though: well, mac has no problems because they make the hardware and they make the software. why wouldn't we do that?
we make a laptop, and we make a distro that runs on it perfectly.

remember how sometimes we need the proprietary drivers so that we can have the hardware function correctly? that is another reason why I really think it would be a good idea if we make hardware. (or at least assemble hardware that is consistent and free).

and also, remember how mac runs very smoothly and snappy on relativly low specs while linux and windows need more specs and runs slower and sometimes they lag?

I am just looking for consistency.

lordadamson 03-20-2014 02:09 PM

I am indeed looking for something like the chrome OS and the chromebook

273 03-20-2014 02:22 PM

The reason OSX "just works" (well, apart from when it doesn't) is because everything is locked down from the choice of hardware to the layout of the desktop. If that's what you want you don't want Linux, you want to buy a Mac.
Why don't you just buy a Mac?
One of the problems I see is people using Linux for the wrong reasons then complaining.


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