{Note: stroke in 2011, and am "brain-damaged"}

For about 6 {six} hours, there was no sound. I did it to myself, but I just got the sound working again. The problem is that I have no idea exactly what I did to getting it working, since I should have done a reboot after every little thing I did, but didn't do it that way.

{sigh}... well, I did getting it working again.

Maybe I should have put this posting in another category. But I am calling it as SOLVED.

Side question: I know I decided to move from Testing to Stable a few years ago, and when this little problem hit, I am calling me a "STABLE-MAN".

Another question, I have been thinking moving to Devuan... what does anyone think about that?

Have yourself a wonderful day!

Devuan is a WHOLE lot Debian, just with a smaller repo because they do not support SystemD or packages that force requirements on SystemD. They DO include some that are packaged to require SystemD but do not actually use it in the code.

IF you use IRC I suggest joining the community there. IF not, you might want to join the newsletter (I did, and occasional contribute comments or test results).

The Devuan team is dedicated and smart, but seriously overworked since Debian once committed to supporting alternate run0 (which SystemD is) and init programs (which SystemD is NOT, but runit, sysvinit, sysinit, and a few others ARE) but they have since dropped all of that and have become borderline hostile. That means the Devuan team has to do ALL the heavy lifting without much Debian help.

I find it clean, fast, dependable (and pretty): much as I had hoped Debian would be had they not gone all Microsofty on us.

What do you mean, Debian has gone Microsofty? I don't understand your comment.

Thanks,
--glenn

#1 in terms of the community, communications suddenly became far less bidirectional and open
#2 in terms of philosophy: the UNIX (and Debian) philosophy and standard suddenly became far more "optional". Instead of keeping the tools simple, efficient, and open they have gone towards complex, inefficient, and exclusive.
#3 Honesty was once a Debian core value. When they started with SystemD they held a vote and the majority REJECTED SystemD, so they redefined who could vote until it passed. The selling point was that it should be faster and more efficient, but it quickly became clear that it was less efficient than current solutions. They also made a commitment to include it as ONE CHOICE and continue supporting other init options, then reversed that and rejected anyone who complained.

That all reminds us a LOT of our relations with Microsoft back in the DOS and OS-II days.

There is a ton more but it does not matter to the question at hand. The point is, Devuan is a great option and a smart choice. You just have to be careful not to pull in Debian packages that have not been approved or converted to non-SystemD stability by the team. It has a fine team and a strong community to help you with that if you go that way. They are, for the most part, where the Debian people and community landed after being ejected by the new Debian SystemD administration and retain the older values and friendly, supportive, attitude. And that is a GOOD thing.

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