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Roman Dyaba 10-11-2021 01:23 PM

LibreOffice.org and Printing and Colors
 
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https://eclipse.org now ready for compilation LibreOffice.org 7.2.2

Menu > Import Project > from git link > master > libreoffice-7.2.2

and wait to get !

Pacemaker, High Availability, and Cluster next get ready to use ! ( https://opensuse.org )
https://doc.opensuse.org/documentati...tallquick.html
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1.1.1 Minimum system requirements
    any AMD64/Intel* EM64T processor (32-bit processors are not supported)
    1 GB physical RAM (at least 1.5 GB when using online repos, 4 GB or more strongly recommended)
    10 GB available disk space for a minimal installation, 16 GB for a graphical desktop (more is recommended).
    In case you plan to use btrfs snapshots a minimum of 40 GB for the root partition is recommended.
    Supports most modern sound and graphics cards, 1024 x 768 display resolution (higher recommended)

but i now have openSUSE 11.1 installation DVD + CDROM for i586 and virtualization in Slackware 64-bit
and it now get upgrades:

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Didier Spaier 10-12-2021 07:10 AM

Why not Tumbleweed?

pghvlaans 10-12-2021 07:41 AM

Sounds old. Isn't Leap in the 14.whatever range these days?

Roman Dyaba 10-12-2021 09:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Didier Spaier (Post 6291323)
Why not Tumbleweed?

i486 - i586 - celeron II - celeron III
it now do update from 11.1 to 11.4 :-) i586

System Requirements, openSUSE 15.3 is only 64-bit today, but Slackware 15.0 64-bit is preferred now.

any openSUSE version main issue example:
Code:

Retrieving package gnibbles-2.32.1-10.1.i586 (1889/2267), 376.0 K (1.6 M unpacked)
Retrieving: gnibbles-2.32.1-10.1.i586.rpm [done (8.0 K/s)]
Installing: gnibbles-2.32.1-10.1 [done]
Additional rpm output:
Starting SuSEconfig, the SuSE Configuration Tool...
Running module permissions only
Reading /etc/sysconfig and updating the system...
Executing /sbin/conf.d/SuSEconfig.permissions...
Checking permissions and ownerships - using the permissions files
        /etc/permissions
        /etc/permissions.easy
        /etc/permissions.d/mail-server
        /etc/permissions.d/postfix
        /etc/permissions.d/squid
        /etc/permissions.d/texlive
        /etc/permissions.local
fscaps support disabled (file_caps missing in /proc/cmdline).
setting /usr/bin/gnibbles to games:games 2755. (wrong permissions 0755)
Finished.

Slackware 15.0 64-bit is funny !

Roman Dyaba 10-12-2021 03:28 PM

Code:

Retrieving package AdobeICCProfiles-2.0-140.1.noarch (2260/2267), 2.5 M (5.4 M unpacked)
Retrieving: AdobeICCProfiles-2.0-140.1.noarch.rpm [done (292.5 K/s)]
Installing: AdobeICCProfiles-2.0-140.1 [done]
Retrieving package unrar-4.0.4-3.1.i586 (2261/2267), 110.0 K (247.0 K unpacked)
Retrieving: unrar-4.0.4-3.1.i586.rpm [done]
Installing: unrar-4.0.4-3.1 [done]
Retrieving package openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-release-11.4-1.6.i586 (2262/2267), 4.0 K (2.0 K unpacked)
Retrieving: openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-release-11.4-1.6.i586.rpm [done]
Installing: openSUSE-Addon-NonOss-release-11.4-1.6 [done]
Retrieving package gstreamer-0_10-fluendo-mp3-12-2.1.i586 (2263/2267), 74.0 K (205.0 K unpacked)
Retrieving: gstreamer-0_10-fluendo-mp3-12-2.1.i586.rpm [done]
Installing: gstreamer-0_10-fluendo-mp3-12-2.1 [done]
Retrieving package flash-player-10.2.152.26-2.1.i586 (2264/2267), 6.4 M (20.7 M unpacked)
Retrieving: flash-player-10.2.152.26-2.1.i586.rpm [done (575.4 K/s)]
Installing: flash-player-10.2.152.26-2.1 [done]
Retrieving package acroread-9.4.2-1.2.1.i586 (2265/2267), 43.2 M (142.6 M unpacked)
Retrieving: acroread-9.4.2-1.2.1.i586.rpm [done (1006.7 K/s)]
Installing: acroread-9.4.2-1.2.1 [done]

whitebot:~ #

reason to this post - COLOR PROFILES is USED FOR PAPER PAGES PRODUCTION

to be continue...

willysr 10-13-2021 09:59 PM

This is Slackware forum, not OpenSUSE

Roman Dyaba 10-13-2021 10:19 PM

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Originally Posted by willysr (Post 6291806)
This is Slackware forum, not OpenSUSE

adn this is about LibreOffice ! What you not understand ? Read before !


ICC Color profiles is used for PAPER PRODUCTION!

willysr 10-13-2021 11:21 PM

but you talked about LO in OpenSUSE not LO in Slackware
how can we actually help if most of us are using Slackware and not OpenSUSE?
You can put this kind of question on OpenSUSE category which is also available in this forum.

Windu 10-14-2021 03:45 AM

LibreOffice 7.2.2 is not even released yet.

Roman Dyaba 10-14-2021 04:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by willysr (Post 6291821)
but you talked about LO in OpenSUSE not LO in Slackware
how can we actually help if most of us are using Slackware and not OpenSUSE?
You can put this kind of question on OpenSUSE category which is also available in this forum.

This is an impossibly difficult situation, because people do not understand the stuations from the screen and talk about what I DO NOT use to collect software packages on, this is a post, I really got angry, because, because of such tupacs, unproductive blogging begins, and the maximum they became famous for is the number of posts, open your eyes, and understand that WITHOUT color profiles, paper is not printed, and the PUBLISHERS have many million and billion dollar business, published by famous magazines , the porn industry, and it's all going to print. I absolutely do not accept stupid switchmen who have not read and do not understand the essence of the situation. The caveat is that there is a hint in the open source about how many packages are missing, and a release that has not yet been released may already initially be rejected, due to the lack of necessary components. I'm going to build software packages for Slackware ! And if someone does not understand, or does not understand, then this their problem !

Didier Spaier 10-14-2021 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Roman Dyaba (Post 6291864)
This is an impossibly difficult situation, because people do not understand the stuations from the screen and talk about what I DO NOT use to collect software packages on, this is a post, bitch fuck, about what is NOT enough in the LibreOffice, I really got angry, because, because of such tupacs, unproductive blogging begins, and the maximum they became famous for is the number of posts, open your eyes, and understand that WITHOUT color profiles, paper is not printed, and the PUBLISHERS have many million and billion dollar business, published by famous magazines , the porn industry, and it's all going to print. I absolutely do not accept stupid switchmen who have not read and do not understand the essence of the situation. The caveat is that there is a hint in the open source about how many packages are missing, and a release that has not yet been released may already initially be rejected, due to the lack of necessary components. I'm going to build software packages for Slackware ! And if someone does not understand, or does not understand, then this is their the problem !

My friend, don't loose your temper publicly like that. It's good neither for your health nor for your reputation. Please take into account that the wording of your posts doesn't make them easy to understand (caveat: English is not my native language either). AND PLEASE STOP USING CAPITALS AND BOLD CHARACTERS. IT IS VERY ANNOYING AND DOES NOT HELP AT ALL TO COMMUNICATE WITH YOU.

Roman Dyaba 10-14-2021 05:23 AM

is abstraction layer ;-) ; and unlike you, Didier Spaier, "It's good neither for your health ... " , my monologue does not threaten anyone!

stop spam message counters, do coding ! however, probably in this case you are absolutely no use at all !

giomat 10-14-2021 05:46 AM

Roman, from what i can understand the issue you are documenting is about "missing adobe ICC profile" in slackware to be used by libreoffice, right?

I understand the importance of ICC profiles, without them as you say it's impossible to do professional work on publishing as the colors come out wrong (unprofiled) when you print stuff, and also when you view it on the screen.

I'm not at home so i cannot check my slackware box, but at work i'm using fedora and i can see ICC profiles stored in /usr/share/color/icc/colord/ and in /usr/share/ghostscript/iccprofiles/.
colord is not on base slackware (can be installed from Slackbuilds.org) but ghostscript is, so these profiles should be there.

I'm not seeing anything coming directly from libreoffice package (both in fedora and in alienbob's package file listing), also looking into libreoffice settings there is no mentioning of ICC profiles, so i suspect these are being handled by the printing dialog through ghostscript

Roman Dyaba 10-14-2021 06:09 AM

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Quote:

Originally Posted by giomat (Post 6291886)
Roman, from what i can understand the issue you are documenting is about "missing adobe ICC profile" in slackware to be used by libreoffice, right?

I understand the importance of ICC profiles, without them as you say it's impossible to do professional work on publishing as the colors come out wrong (unprofiled) when you print stuff, and also when you view it on the screen.

I'm not at home so i cannot check my slackware box, but at work i'm using fedora and i can see ICC profiles stored in /usr/share/color/icc/colord/ and in /usr/share/ghostscript/iccprofiles/.
colord is not on base slackware (can be installed from Slackbuilds.org) but ghostscript is, so these profiles should be there.

I'm not seeing anything coming directly from libreoffice package (both in fedora and in alienbob's package file listing), also looking into libreoffice settings there is no mentioning of ICC profiles, so i suspect these are being handled by the printing dialog through ghostscript

At the very beginning, if you remember, in the GIMP package there was a setting with a screen ruler and a color profile, but in LibreOffice it is absent or this setting was simply forgotten. In modern business, this interconnection of technologies is very important, for example, you need to track that the color is transmitted as accurately as possible, along the entire chain from the developer's screen to the Hewlett Packard plotter, where the engineer who prints the drawings works.
So, this system does not work in Slackware now, there are problems with the screen, and with the office suite, and most importantly - Hewlett Packard (hplip) large-format printers and ordinary ones - A4 format. It's important to just fix it all.
And it is business, is it all big business. Energy, building, magazines.

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giomat 10-14-2021 06:59 AM

Yes, the issue with color management "in general" in Slackware (and in Linux more broadly) that you are bringing up is very important, and in my opinion is worthy of a dedicated discussion.

KDE is the only desktop shipped with Slackware that has some color management functionality built-in, in the sense that you can set an icc profile for the system and get corrected color rendering on screen in applications that request it. To be fully functional it needs the colord daemon installed (and maybe a compatibility bridge that some distros call colord-kde). This gives you basically the same result as setting a system-wide icc profile in Microsoft Windows in the color management settings.

You can get the same functionality in other desktops using argyllcms (available from Slackbuilds.org). argyll provides you with the command dispwin, that you can use for example on startup script to set an icc profile for your screen
Code:

dispwin -I profile.icc
Other than this, as far as i know the main color managed applications shipped with slackware are indeed GIMP, as you noted, and krita (perhaps digikam as well since it manages photos, but i dont use it very often). Office suites are still lacking in this aspect, but i think this is more of a linux problem than a slackware problem. Not many people do color sensitive publishing work in linux, they mostly use adobe programs on Mac or Windows.

And yes, I understand that if you don't use KDE (and remember to install colord), a color managed workflow can be a bit difficult to set up for most users, but at least the tools are there and available when needed.

For the record, where I work I deal with color profiles everyday because we do image processing. I use argyll and DisplayCal (awesome piece of software) to generate the screen profile with a spyder colorimeter, then gnome-colord to set it up system-wide and finally I view my images with GIMP that has all sort of color management options available, including printed color proofing with the most used paper profiles. So compared with Windows/Mac I'm not missing anything critical for my workflow and I can happily use linux.


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