[SOLVED] Paste files to NTFS partition returns access denied message

I dual boot Slackware64 15 and Windows 10. Slackware sees the Windows partition as an ntfs filesystem. I'm logged in to Slackware currently, where I downloaded some pictures. I used keyboard "ctl-X", cut and paste as opposed to copy and paste, to move the pics from the local Downloads folder to the ntfs partition, where I usually save everything. Each file returns a message like this as it pastes:
Access denied to /ntfsd/pictures/img_XXXX.jpg

I can either Retry or Cancel. But regardless of the message, the image copies over anyway. I don't understand why I'm getting that message while the file moves over anyway. The relevant line in /etc/mtab says:

/dev/sda6 /ntfsd fuseblk rw,relatime,user_id=0,group_id=0,default_permissions,allow_other,blksize=4096 0 0

and for /etc/fstab:

UUID=82CC1BFECC1BEAE5                            /ntfsd           ntfs        fmask=111,dmask=000 1   0

Is there a setting I should change or something I should check?

Tracing this problem down would be a lot easier if you could reproduce the problem by doing mv or cp of a file at a command prompt. Then we could ask for the output from from a command like

strace mv /tmp/file.txt /ntfsd/file.txt

You can't run strace easily on point-and-click in a graphical file manager, it will result in far too much noise.

regards Henrik

Thanks for the suggestion. I used the command line and the file moved to the new folder.

Here are results. No idea what any of this means.

strace mv cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg /ntfsd/pictures/

execve("/usr/bin/mv", ["mv", "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba9"..., "/ntfsd/pictures/"], 0x7ffd949c9580 /* 69 vars */) = 0 brk(NULL) = 0x1008000 access("/etc/ld.so.preload", R_OK) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/etc/ld.so.cache", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=203716, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 203716, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415cf000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/lib64/libacl.so.1", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0>\0\1\0\0\0p#\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 832) = 832 pread64(3, "\4\0\0\0 \0\0\0\5\0\0\0GNU\0\1\0\1\300\4\0\0\0\t\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 48, 33600) = 48 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=39360, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f97415cd000 mmap(NULL, 41440, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415c2000 mmap(0x7f97415c4000, 20480, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2000) = 0x7f97415c4000 mmap(0x7f97415c9000, 8192, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x7000) = 0x7f97415c9000 mmap(0x7f97415cb000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x8000) = 0x7f97415cb000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/lib64/libattr.so.1", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0>\0\1\0\0\0\220"\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 832) = 832 pread64(3, "\4\0\0\0 \0\0\0\5\0\0\0GNU\0\1\0\1\300\4\0\0\0\1\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 48, 22368) = 48 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=26952, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 29008, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415ba000 mmap(0x7f97415bc000, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x2000) = 0x7f97415bc000 mmap(0x7f97415bf000, 4096, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x5000) = 0x7f97415bf000 mmap(0x7f97415c0000, 8192, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x5000) = 0x7f97415c0000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/lib64/libc.so.6", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 read(3, "\177ELF\2\1\1\3\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\0\3\0>\0\1\0\0\0\200A\2\0\0\0\0\0"..., 832) = 832 pread64(3, "\6\0\0\0\4\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 784, 64) = 784 pread64(3, "\4\0\0\0 \0\0\0\5\0\0\0GNU\0\1\0\1\300\4\0\0\0;\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 48, 848) = 48 pread64(3, "\4\0\0\0\20\0\0\0\1\0\0\0GNU\0\0\0\0\0\3\0\0\0\2\0\0\0\0\0\0\0", 32, 896) = 32 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0755, st_size=2168056, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 pread64(3, "\6\0\0\0\4\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0@\0\0\0\0\0\0\0"..., 784, 64) = 784 mmap(NULL, 1959240, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97413db000 mmap(0x7f97413fd000, 1433600, PROT_READ|PROT_EXEC, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x22000) = 0x7f97413fd000 mmap(0x7f974155b000, 327680, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x180000) = 0x7f974155b000 mmap(0x7f97415ab000, 24576, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_DENYWRITE, 3, 0x1cf000) = 0x7f97415ab000 mmap(0x7f97415b1000, 34120, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_FIXED|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f97415b1000 close(3) = 0 mmap(NULL, 12288, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f97413d8000 arch_prctl(ARCH_SET_FS, 0x7f97413d8740) = 0 mprotect(0x7f97415ab000, 16384, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x7f97415c0000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x7f97415cb000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x41d000, 4096, PROT_READ) = 0 mprotect(0x7f9741630000, 8192, PROT_READ) = 0 munmap(0x7f97415cf000, 203716) = 0 brk(NULL) = 0x1008000 brk(0x1029000) = 0x1029000 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/locale-archive", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/locale.alias", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=2998, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 read(3, "# Locale name alias data base.\n#"..., 4096) = 2998 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_IDENTIFICATION", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=369, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 369, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f9741600000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/gconv/gconv-modules.cache", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/gconv/gconv-modules", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=56353, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 read(3, "# GNU libc iconv configuration.\n"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "B1002//\tJUS_I.B1.002//\nmodule\tJU"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "\tISO-IR-110//\t\tISO-8859-4//\nalia"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "\t\t\tISO-8859-14//\nalias\tISO_8859-"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "DIC-ES//\nalias\tEBCDICES//\t\tEBCDI"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "CDIC-CP-ES//\t\tIBM284//\nalias\tCSI"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "\t\tIBM863//\nalias\tOSF1002035F//\t\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "937//\t\tIBM937//\nmodule\tIBM937//\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "UJIS//\t\t\tEUC-JP//\nmodule\tEUC-JP/"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "lias\tISO2022CN//\t\tISO-2022-CN//\n"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "O_5427-EXT//\nalias\tISO_5427EXT//"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "ost\nmodule\tMAC-SAMI//\t\tINTERNAL\t"..., 4096) = 4096 read(3, "112//\t\tINTERNAL\t\tIBM1112\t\t1\nmodu"..., 4096) = 4096 brk(0x104a000) = 0x104a000 read(3, "s\tCP9448//\t\tIBM9448//\nalias\tCSIB"..., 4096) = 3105 read(3, "", 4096) = 0 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MEASUREMENT", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MEASUREMENT", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=23, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 23, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415ff000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TELEPHONE", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TELEPHONE", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=59, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 59, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415fe000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_ADDRESS", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_ADDRESS", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=167, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 167, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415fd000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_NAME", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_NAME", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=77, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 77, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415fc000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_PAPER", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_PAPER", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=34, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 34, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415fb000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/SYS_LC_MESSAGES", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=57, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 57, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415fa000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MONETARY", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MONETARY", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=286, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 286, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415f9000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_TIME", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_TIME", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=3316, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 3316, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415f8000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_NUMERIC", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_NUMERIC", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=54, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 54, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f97415f7000 close(3) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/lib64/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_CTYPE", O_RDONLY|O_CLOEXEC) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=346132, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 mmap(NULL, 346132, PROT_READ, MAP_PRIVATE, 3, 0) = 0x7f9741383000 close(3) = 0 geteuid() = 1001 ioctl(0, TCGETS, {B38400 opost isig icanon echo ...}) = 0 renameat2(AT_FDCWD, "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", AT_FDCWD, "/ntfsd/pictures/", RENAME_NOREPLACE) = -1 EXDEV (Invalid cross-device link) newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/ntfsd/pictures/", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0777, st_size=4096, ...}, 0) = 0 renameat2(AT_FDCWD, "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", AT_FDCWD, "/ntfsd/pictures/cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", RENAME_NOREPLACE) = -1 EXDEV (Invalid cross-device link) newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=203759, ...}, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/ntfsd/pictures/cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", 0x7ffe08351bc0, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) unlink("/ntfsd/pictures/cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg") = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", O_RDONLY|O_NOFOLLOW) = 3 newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=203759, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/ntfsd/pictures/cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", O_WRONLY|O_CREAT|O_EXCL, 0600) = 4 newfstatat(4, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0666, st_size=0, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 ioctl(4, BTRFS_IOC_CLONE or FICLONE, 3) = -1 EXDEV (Invalid cross-device link) fadvise64(3, 0, 0, POSIX_FADV_SEQUENTIAL) = 0 mmap(NULL, 139264, PROT_READ|PROT_WRITE, MAP_PRIVATE|MAP_ANONYMOUS, -1, 0) = 0x7f97415d5000 uname({sysname="Linux", nodename="passerine.ave", ...}) = 0 copy_file_range(3, NULL, 4, NULL, 9223372035781033984, 0) = -1 EXDEV (Invalid cross-device link) read(3, "\377\330\377\340\0\20JFIF\0\1\1\0\0H\0H\0\0\377\341\1|Exif\0\0MM"..., 131072) = 131072 write(4, "\377\330\377\340\0\20JFIF\0\1\1\0\0H\0H\0\0\377\341\1|Exif\0\0MM"..., 131072) = 131072 read(3, "\377\0\341\315\356\362\377\0\360t\246\v\322\264\37\360\231\276)\377\0\340\365|\177\303\376\250(\371 k\376"..., 131072) = 72687 write(4, "\377\0\341\315\356\362\377\0\360t\246\v\322\264\37\360\231\276)\377\0\340\365|\177\303\376\250(\371 k\376"..., 72687) = 72687 read(3, "", 131072) = 0 utimensat(4, NULL, [{tv_sec=15032385535, tv_nsec=0} /* 2446-05-10T18:38:55-0400 */, {tv_sec=1713986968, tv_nsec=0} /* 2024-04-24T15:29:28-0400 */], 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/coreutils.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, "mv: ", 4mv: ) = 4 write(2, "preserving times for '/ntfsd/pic"..., 80preserving times for '/ntfsd/pictures/cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg') = 80 openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en_US/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.UTF-8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en.utf8/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) openat(AT_FDCWD, "/usr/share/locale/en/LC_MESSAGES/libc.mo", O_RDONLY) = -1 ENOENT (No such file or directory) write(2, ": Operation not permitted", 25: Operation not permitted) = 25 write(2, "\n", 1 ) = 1 fchown(4, 1001, 100) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) fchown(4, -1, 100) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) flistxattr(3, NULL, 0) = 0 flistxattr(3, 0x7ffe08351980, 0) = 0 fgetxattr(3, "system.posix_acl_access", 0x7ffe08351870, 132) = -1 ENODATA (No data available) newfstatat(3, "", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=203759, ...}, AT_EMPTY_PATH) = 0 fsetxattr(4, "system.posix_acl_access", "\2\0\0\0\1\0\6\0\377\377\377\377\4\0\4\0\377\377\377\377 \0\4\0\377\377\377\377", 28, 0) = -1 EOPNOTSUPP (Operation not supported) fchmod(4, 0100644) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted) write(2, "mv: ", 4mv: ) = 4 write(2, "preserving permissions for \342\200\230/n"..., 90preserving permissions for ‘/ntfsd/pictures/cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg’) = 90 write(2, ": Operation not permitted", 25: Operation not permitted) = 25 write(2, "\n", 1 ) = 1 close(4) = 0 close(3) = 0 munmap(0x7f97415d5000, 139264) = 0 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "/", {st_mode=S_IFDIR|0755, st_size=4096, ...}, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0 newfstatat(AT_FDCWD, "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", {st_mode=S_IFREG|0644, st_size=203759, ...}, AT_SYMLINK_NOFOLLOW) = 0 unlinkat(AT_FDCWD, "cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg", 0) = 0 lseek(0, 0, SEEK_CUR) = -1 ESPIPE (Illegal seek) close(0) = 0 close(1) = 0 close(2) = 0 exit_group(0) = ? +++ exited with 0 +++

Maybe try the paragon ntfs driver. Change your fstab from

UUID=82CC1BFECC1BEAE5                            /ntfsd           ntfs        fmask=111,dmask=000 1   0

to

UUID=82CC1BFECC1BEAE5                            /ntfsd           ntfs3        fmask=111,dmask=000 1   0

Originally Posted by Tsuga UUID=82CC1BFECC1BEAE5 /ntfsd ntfs fmask=111,dmask=000 1 0 Is there a setting I should change or something I should check?

The standard NTFS driver doesn't support writing. As per above, you'll get better results with either the Paragon driver or ntfs-3g.

Originally Posted by Tsuga Thanks for the suggestion. I used the command line and the file moved to the new folder. Here are results. No idea what any of this means. strace mv cc613f04-d151-48a8-a286-8aa1cba90583.jpeg /ntfsd/pictures/

The explanations are here:

Originally Posted by Tsuga utimensat(4, NULL, [{tv_sec=15032385535, tv_nsec=0} /* 2446-05-10T18:38:55-0400 */, {tv_sec=1713986968, tv_nsec=0} /* 2024-04-24T15:29:28-0400 */], 0) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)

The NTFS file system does not seem to allow you to preserve the time stamp of the moved file.

Originally Posted by Tsuga fchown(4, 1001, 100) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)

And you are not allowed to keep the ownership of the file, probably because the NTFS file system does not know anything about your normal user with UID number 1001.

Originally Posted by Tsuga fchmod(4, 0100644) = -1 EPERM (Operation not permitted)

And you are not allowed to set unix file permissions on a file in an NTFS file system.

But most of the above would have been rather obvious by looking at the output of mv if run without strace.
You might want to wish that your graphical file manager gave a more detailed error message.

regards Henrik

Thanks for the informative and helpful comments.

I couldn't find anything in slackpkg or sbopkg with Paragon NTFS3. I do have ntfs-3g installed and so I changed fstab to use that instead. I rebooted and tried moving a file again via GUI and I get the same error an in #1.

I then tried the CLI with mv strace. The file moves again but with the same result as what I show in #3.

I think that I had ntfs-3g as the setting in fstab when I first set up the computer, but then read some time after that ntfs-3g was problematic. I can't remember where or when I read that, but I believe that's why I had the ntfs setting in fstab.

I suppose as long as I can move the files, even if there is that error in the GUI, I'm okay.

Originally Posted by Tsuga I couldn't find anything in slackpkg or sbopkg with Paragon NTFS3.

The Paragon driver comes with Slackware's kernel. All you need to do to use it is specify "ntfs3" in place of "ntfs"

The problem here does not seem to be lack of permission to write files. The problem seems to be that the NTFS file system does not allow changing ownership of a file, setting unix permissions on a file or changing the time stamp of a file.

Considering that NTFS is a completely different beast than a unix file system some of those limitations make sense. Moving the file works fine, but it will not be able to retain ownership, timestamp or unix file permissions.

regards Henrik

I have this on /etc/fstab to mount ntfs partitions

UUID=6C90EEC690EE95BC /winxp ntfs-3g locale=pt_BR.utf-8,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000,noauto 1 0
UUID=384C53414C52F8D8 /win10 ntfs-3g locale=pt_BR.utf-8,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000,noauto 1 0
UUID=9EF6B01AF6AFF127 /seagate2t ntfs-3g locale=pt_BR.utf-8,uid=1000,gid=100,umask=000,noauto 1 0

It mounts with my regular user's uid and gid.
locale is for pt_BR language, full of accented characters.
I prefer ntfs-3g instead of the (now native) Paragon kernel driver. I had some errors using it.
Hope this helps.

I just spent some time writing up a post over in the install section of the forums on the topic of mounting ntfs partitions. A couple things I noticed that are relevant to the discussion in this post:

1. There's no difference between specifying 'ntfs' or 'ntfs-3g' as the fs type. These both use the ntfs-3g fuse driver in the end.

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Jul 12  2023 /sbin/mount.ntfs -> mount.ntfs-3g

2. I had errors using the 'ntfs3' paragon driver as well. In my case, this is due to the ntfs filesystem being marked as "dirty" (windows wants to scan it for errors, but I really dont use windows much and have been skipping that to just get in and get out back to slackware ). I had to add the 'force' option to the ntfs3 driver's options in fstab to get it to mount without that error. I guess the ntfs-3g fuse driver just don't care about "dirty filesystems", while ntfs3 is more strict about that.

See the other post I wrote up if you want to read the rest: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...7/#post6499135

Cheers