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kikinovak 08-10-2016 02:04 AM

MLED needs your vote on Distrowatch
 
Hi fellow Slackers,

The MLED project has been around for a few years now, and it's slowly but steadily gaining momentum. Aside from questions and/or bug reports, I've been getting quite a lot of positive feedback. I guess it's time for MLED to reach a wider audience, and it looks like the best way to achieve that is for the distribution (or meta-distribution) to be added to the Distrowatch site.

MLED has been added to the Distrowatch waiting list in March 2015. It's been almost a year and a half now, and it's still on the waiting list. You can change with a simple vote. Search for "Microlinux Enterprise Desktop" and click on the "Recommend" button, so the distribution moves up on the waiting list. Maybe sooner or later MLED will be added to the official distribution list and - who knows - even get a review?

http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?resource=links#new

Cheers from the sunny South of France,

Niki

wagscat123 08-11-2016 10:04 AM

Sounds like it has a good spot in the Linux ecosystem - the power of Slackware with codecs and normal apps. It got my vote!

kikinovak 08-11-2016 10:38 AM

I just got an email from Distrowatch informing me that MLED does not qualify as a distribution, since there's no separate installation ISO to download.

wagscat123 08-11-2016 10:49 AM

Do you plan to offer an ISO at some point?

kikinovak 08-11-2016 12:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagscat123 (Post 5589428)
Do you plan to offer an ISO at some point?

http://www.microlinux.eu/faq.php#iso

wagscat123 08-12-2016 11:05 AM

DistroWatch's decision makes sense now. I'm glad I saw this thread - next break I have I think I'll be extending the Slackware installation on my old machine.

Thanks!

kikinovak 08-12-2016 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagscat123 (Post 5589890)
DistroWatch's decision makes sense now. I'm glad I saw this thread - next break I have I think I'll be extending the Slackware installation on my old machine.

Thanks!

Well, I don't know if it makes that much sense. Distributions like Gentoo or LFS are listed on Distrowatch, yet they don't sport an installation ISO. On the other hand, give me one cent for every Ubuntu-with-a-different-wallpaper, and I'm a rich man.

Timothy Miller 08-12-2016 05:27 PM

Gentoo most certainly does release an installation iso.

kikinovak 08-13-2016 03:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy Miller (Post 5590033)
Gentoo most certainly does release an installation iso.

You're right. Last time I checked (a few years ago), they recommended to use the System Rescue Live CD to install it.

RadicalDreamer 08-13-2016 04:18 AM

That site likes to bad mouth Slackware based distros anyway. If you don't do dependency checks and don't modify packages to create your own unique personal touch (vanilla bad/modified & unified design good) then the reviewer bad mouths the distro. That's what I gather.

I think its silly since many distros are modifications of other distros like Debian. I think the reviewer just wanted one unified iso to plop into a VM and quickly praise for heavy modifications or bad mouth for lack of.

It does beg what a Linux Distribution is in my mind. If someone took an iso and just changed the name of everything to "My Linux Distribution 1.0" and submitted it to distrowatch would that count as a linux distribution?

wagscat123 08-13-2016 01:15 PM

Hard to define what a distro is, although I wouldn't say repo extensions (another example like openSUSE EduLife)

Quote:

Originally Posted by RadicalDreamer (Post 5590188)
If someone took an iso and just changed the name of everything to "My Linux Distribution 1.0" and submitted it to distrowatch would that count as a linux distribution?

Absolutely, if it's Ubuntu based, that is. :) (<- meant to put smiley face there, not at top of post)

Kubuntu or Ubuntu GNOME is not very different than another spin of Fedora or a SUSE Studio custom ISO. It would be more convenient anyways if the Kubuntu KDE Plasma version was included on the Ubuntu distrowatch page anyways.

kikinovak 08-13-2016 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wagscat123 (Post 5590378)
Hard to define what a distro is, although I wouldn't say repo extensions (another example like openSUSE EduLife)

MLED is something in between a distribution and a repo extension. The end result is definitely something like Salix or Zenwalk, the only difference being that I don't provide a separate ISO. Just give it a spin, you'll realize it's more than just a third-party repo.

wagscat123 08-13-2016 04:35 PM

This winter, I will :). It sounds nice

bormant 08-14-2016 02:18 AM

If your language page on DW doesn't have Recommend button use English link:
http://distrowatch.com/dwres.php?res...anguage=EN#new

bormant 08-14-2016 02:24 AM

@kikinovak,
DW shows MLED in "Projects not yet ready" list after voting.
Maybe they wait for any condition other than number of votes?

kikinovak 08-14-2016 07:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bormant (Post 5590581)
@kikinovak,
DW shows MLED in "Projects not yet ready" list after voting.
Maybe they wait for any condition other than number of votes?

Distrowatch would consider MLED "ready" if I provided a separate ISO. Here's my take on that:

http://www.microlinux.eu/faq.php#iso

offgridguy 08-26-2016 02:09 PM

I added my vote for MLED, unfortunately, I doubt it will change anything at Distrowatch.

Edit; I read your take on the separate iso.
Quote:

Why don't you provide a separate ISO?

MLED doesn't aim to be Yet Another Linux Distribution. Its ambition is to be an add-on to Slackware Linux and to provide those packages that are missing for a complete out-of-the-box desktop experience.

The Linux world has a sad history of reinventing the wheel and duplicating efforts, and I don't want to contribute to that. Besides, a separate installation ISO would be a huge waste of bandwidth. All this to save you from typing a handful of commands?
If there was a separate iso though, it would make MLED available to the less experienced users
who want to try Slackware, and give them a taste of Slackware 'improved'.:)

Philip Lacroix 10-08-2016 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by offgridguy (Post 5596501)
If there was a separate iso though, it would make MLED available to the less experienced users who want to try Slackware, and give them a taste of Slackware 'improved'.:)

Niki provided an answer to that point as well in the FAQs, and I personally find it reasonable and perfectly consistent with the Slackware philosophy:

Quote:

While MLED is extremely user-friendly once it's installed, the installation procedure itself requires a bit of Linux knowledge. MLED is based on Slackware, which has never been a hold-your-hand distribution. Think of MLED as "Linux From Slack", or more precisely "Beyond Linux From Slack". If you can't be bothered with reading Slackware's and MLED's detailed documentation, you might be better off using a different distribution like openSUSE or Ubuntu.
I've never installed the MLED add-on, as I don't need it, but I understand that Niki's work is meant to be used, not necessarily installed, by the end-user. In fact, he does the installation and maintenance work for his customers, and MLED was created for them. Besides, providing a complete ISO might divert some of the new (or uninformed) Slackware/MLED users away from the official project, which is not desirable IMHO. Wisely, MLED is a complement, not a replacement. :)

kikinovak 10-09-2016 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Philip Lacroix (Post 5615502)
I've never installed the MLED add-on, as I don't need it, but I understand that Niki's work is meant to be used, not necessarily installed, by the end-user. In fact, he does the installation and maintenance work for his customers, and MLED was created for them. Besides, providing a complete ISO might divert some of the new (or uninformed) Slackware/MLED users away from the official project, which is not desirable IMHO. Wisely, MLED is a complement, not a replacement. :)

I couldn't have said it better.

Niki

Timothy Miller 10-09-2016 01:58 AM

Which, to take nothing from mled, is exactly why I agree with distrowatch that it's not a distro. If mled is considered a distro, then is deb-multimedia also now a distro? Is rpmfusion now a distro? I completely agree that mled, as it is, should NOT be listed as a distro...it's not. It's, as very well said, a complimentary extension to Slackware, not a standalone distribution (and for those that will bring it up, no I don't believe "I put a different desktop wallpaper on Ubuntu" should be a distribution either like 98% of the list seems to be).

kikinovak 10-10-2016 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timothy Miller (Post 5615665)
Which, to take nothing from mled, is exactly why I agree with distrowatch that it's not a distro. If mled is considered a distro, then is deb-multimedia also now a distro? Is rpmfusion now a distro? I completely agree that mled, as it is, should NOT be listed as a distro...it's not. It's, as very well said, a complimentary extension to Slackware, not a standalone distribution (and for those that will bring it up, no I don't believe "I put a different desktop wallpaper on Ubuntu" should be a distribution either like 98% of the list seems to be).

I can only agree with you. Unfortunately these days, "distro" also means "project worth to be mentioned on Distrowatch". It's a bit frustrating to put so much work into this complement to Slackware and not see it listed on DW, and then have another Ubuntu-with-a-different-wallpaper advertised. Although these days, the Arch remixes seem to be more popular. So for now MLED is flying under the radar and remains a confidential project.

Cheers,

Niki


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