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blueicetwice 11-28-2020 10:02 AM

Can I Remove These Two Programs?
 
Greetings:

I love Manjaro but not their heavy handed forum.

Since I have no HP peripherals, would it be ok to uninstall
both the HP Device Manger and HP-UISCAN? [Manjaro 20 - Cinnamon]

Thank you kindly.

sgosnell 11-28-2020 10:45 AM

It should be fine, but when you run the
Code:

sudo apt remove
with the actual package names, look closely at what apt proposes to remove. If it wants to remove too many other packages, you can press the n key and abort the operation. Having those packages installed does no harm, though, and they don't take up that much storage space, so removal doesn't seem essential.

blueicetwice 11-28-2020 12:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgosnell (Post 6189660)
It should be fine, but when you run the
Code:

sudo apt remove
with the actual package names, look closely at what apt proposes to remove. If it wants to remove too many other packages, you can press the n key and abort the operation. Having those packages installed does no harm, though, and they don't take up that much storage space, so removal doesn't seem essential.

Sgosnell, thanks for your thoughts. Yes, indeed they do not take up a lot of storage, however,
in the "menu" the listing of programs is 168 and it takes time to scroll down to find a piece of software. And hopefully, these unused programs do not lead to some sort of operational conflict.

Some of these were installed by me but I would never use "hot corners" for example. I do need to be careful not to remove programs, which are important to the operating system. Your suggestion to review their significance to the OS is excellent advice, which I will follow.

teckk 11-28-2020 03:47 PM

Does Manjaro use apt? I did not know that.

Bet that's part of hplip
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/hplip/

Code:

pacman -Si hplip
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

ondoho 11-29-2020 02:04 AM

Yes, you can remove that (yay -R ...) and if you do not have a printer you can remove much more, the whole printer daemon (yay -R cups).
Be sure not to remove too much.
But also make sure no orphans are left behind.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

blueicetwice 11-29-2020 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teckk (Post 6189747)
Does Manjaro use apt? I did not know that.

Bet that's part of hplip
https://www.archlinux.org/packages/extra/x86_64/hplip/

Code:

pacman -Si hplip
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman


Teckk, I have saved your last link. Very helful information.

I did check HP list of divers and it is only for their devices.
So I must assume others printers would not work with their divers.

blueicetwice 11-29-2020 08:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6189846)
Yes, you can remove that (yay -R ...) and if you do not have a printer you can remove much more, the whole printer daemon (yay -R cups).
Be sure not to remove too much.
But also make sure no orphans are left behind.
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Pacman

Ondoho, I removed the program and did several test prints and all
works as it should.

The software was uninstalled via "add/remove software" option.

Question to you, how does one check for orphans?

sgosnell 11-29-2020 09:13 AM

For some reason I thought Manjaro used apt. My apologies. I've never tried Manjaro, just heard of it, and apparently didn't hear enough.

ondoho 11-29-2020 11:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueicetwice (Post 6189925)
Question to you, how does one check for orphans?

Search the link I gave you.

And in the future, the arch wiki is always the first go-to for problems on all arch-based distro.
Well, strictly speaking, the Manjaro wiki is the first go-to, then the arch wiki.

blueicetwice 11-30-2020 06:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sgosnell (Post 6189930)
For some reason I thought Manjaro used apt. My apologies. I've never tried Manjaro, just heard of it, and apparently didn't hear enough.

"apt is a command-line utility for installing, updating, removing, and otherwise managing deb packages on Ubuntu, Debian, and related Linux distribution."

Sgosnell, I tried enter the 'apt" command several times and it
did not work. Manjaro, being an Arch based OS uses different command
structure.

Hear is a sample command for installing software.

"# pacman -S package_name1 package_name2"

blueicetwice 11-30-2020 07:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6190092)
Search the link I gave you.

And in the future, the arch wiki is always the first go-to for problems on all arch-based distro.
Well, strictly speaking, the Manjaro wiki is the first go-to, then the arch wiki.

Ondohoo, I found the appropriate link.

:study: ----> https://www.linuxsecrets.com/manjaro...e_Removal.html

ondoho 12-01-2020 12:44 PM

^ Well, the Manjaro wiki is actually here: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueicetwice (Post 6190189)
Hear is a sample command for installing software.
"# pacman -S package_name1 package_name2"

I dunno how Manjaro handles these things, but on ArchLinux proper partial upgrades are not supported.
In other words, you never just install one package, you always bring the whole system up to date before installing one package:
Code:

# pacman -Syu package_name1 package_name2
Also I believe that Manjaro relies on the AUR quite a lot which isn't covered by pacman itself.
Hence me suggesting yay instead.

blueicetwice 12-02-2020 02:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ondoho (Post 6190681)
^ Well, the Manjaro wiki is actually here: https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php


I dunno how Manjaro handles these things, but on ArchLinux proper partial upgrades are not supported.
In other words, you never just install one package, you always bring the whole system up to date before installing one package:
Code:

# pacman -Syu package_name1 package_name2
Also I believe that Manjaro relies on the AUR quite a lot which isn't covered by pacman itself.
Hence me suggesting yay instead.

Ondoho, I am not sure what you mean "bring the whole system up to date." Does that means making sure there are no updates, in the "Update Manager" or installing any dependencies?

You are right about downloading programs mainly from their AUR. I added all additional programs from that depository [AUR].

ondoho 12-03-2020 12:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blueicetwice (Post 6191080)
Ondoho, I am not sure what you mean "bring the whole system up to date."

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php...re_unsupported
https://wiki.manjaro.org/index.php/S...artial_Updates
Less asking, more reading please.

blueicetwice 12-03-2020 02:14 PM

gracias amigo! Good reading indeed.


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