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dolphans1 05-25-2004 09:55 PM

Help Installing Moziila Browser??
 
Hey Mandraker Users,

Can someone have the patience to possibly walk me through downloading and installing the Mozilla browser onto my Mandrake 9.2 operating system. I still can't figure it out.

Before I download it and save it, what location should I save it to? Does it even matter?

Also, does it matter if its the !686 architecture, actually it’s the "mozilla-!686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7rc-installer.tar.gz" onto a Mandrake 9.2 operating system.

What is the easiest way to install it and how do you do it?

Can you give me a breakdown step-by-step?

Thanks,

d-1

vdogvictor 05-25-2004 10:25 PM

Well first off I think mozilla comes with mandrake...so try to get the .rpm file of the installation CD's and it will save you a lot of trouble. I have no clue where they are on the CD but when you find it you have to run this command to install it (if you don't know how to mount your cd's do this)

su -
enter password
mount /dev/hd? /mnt/cdrom

replace the "?" with the letter of your cd drive. then do this (insert the actual path to the folder containing mozilla)

cd /mnt/cdrom/path/to/mozilla
rpm -i mozillafilename.rpm

I just looked on mozilla.org and they don't seem to offer an rpm version of mozilla (not to say there isn't one on the mandrake CD)
it is i686 not !686...you will be fine as long as you have a Pentium Pro, Celeron, PII, PIII, Xeon, or P4. Now for the file that you already have. It makes no difference where you save it to other than where you wanna save it to. run these commands to install it

tar -xvzf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7rc-installer.tar.gz
cd mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7rc-installer

now look for a readme or install file for instructions that are specific to mozilla...but for most programs run these commands

./configure
make
make install

you are done.

dolphans1 05-25-2004 10:49 PM

Man I still can't figure it out. I extracted the file to my documents folder then I opened my xterm and typed in the following "tar -xvzf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7rc-installer.tar.gz" (just as typed) and I get a cannot open message, no such file or directory.

d-1




Quote:

Originally posted by vdogvictor
Well first off I think mozilla comes with mandrake...so try to get the .rpm file of the installation CD's and it will save you a lot of trouble. I have no clue where they are on the CD but when you find it you have to run this command to install it (if you don't know how to mount your cd's do this)

su -
enter password
mount /dev/hd? /mnt/cdrom

replace the "?" with the letter of your cd drive. then do this (insert the actual path to the folder containing mozilla)

cd /mnt/cdrom/path/to/mozilla
rpm -i mozillafilename.rpm

I just looked on mozilla.org and they don't seem to offer an rpm version of mozilla (not to say there isn't one on the mandrake CD)
it is i686 not !686...you will be fine as long as you have a Pentium Pro, Celeron, PII, PIII, Xeon, or P4. Now for the file that you already have. It makes no difference where you save it to other than where you wanna save it to. run these commands to install it

tar -xvzf mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7rc-installer.tar.gz
cd mozilla-i686-pc-linux-gnu-1.7rc-installer

now look for a readme or install file for instructions that are specific to mozilla...but for most programs run these commands

./configure
make
make install

you are done.


Gamgee 05-26-2004 08:23 AM

First of all, you're trying to install beta (unstable) software. Not the best idea.

Secondly, why try to install from a tarball? Do it the easy way, and install from an RPM.

Get Mozilla 1.6 here (and there are plenty of other nice RPM's too):

http://norlug.org/~chipster/rpm_index/cat4

dolphans1 05-26-2004 09:53 AM

I installed the RPM version of it, but I still can't figure out how to install it. It's sitting inside my documents file but I am at a lost on how to install it. I have tried downloading Mozilla, netscape and I am 0 for 2.

d-1


Quote:

Originally posted by Gamgee
First of all, you're trying to install beta (unstable) software. Not the best idea.

Secondly, why try to install from a tarball? Do it the easy way, and install from an RPM.

Get Mozilla 1.6 here (and there are plenty of other nice RPM's too):

http://norlug.org/~chipster/rpm_index/cat4


Gamgee 05-26-2004 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dolphans1
I installed the RPM version of it, but I still can't figure out how to install it. It's sitting inside my documents file but I am at a lost on how to install it. I have tried downloading Mozilla, netscape and I am 0 for 2.

d-1

You're not making much sense here... Above, you say you installed it, but can't figure out how to install it. Which is it?

If you don't know how to install an rpm, here's a short tutorial:

Open a terminal, change to root (su), and change directory to wherever the rpm is located.
Use the command: rpm -Uvh filename.rpm to install it.

Use the command: man rpm to learn more about the rpm function.

dolphans1 05-26-2004 10:30 AM

I meant to say I downloaded the RPM version of Mozilla into my documents folder. I tried to install Mozilla by typing the following commands below(got help from someone else before reading your post below);

"rpm -Uvh moziila-firefox-0.8-1.nurlug.i586.rpm"

and it went through all these commands, really fast, but it never said it was installed.

So I am not sure if it was installed or not.

In short, there is no icon to open from the drag menu

so I am at a total loss as to what to do next.

So far to-date- I have not been able to install 1 single software program with mandrake.

Many months ago I gae up trying to install my nvidia drivers, never could figure that out either.

0-3, in baseball that's a strike-out....

d-1



Quote:

Originally posted by Gamgee
You're not making much sense here... Above, you say you installed it, but can't figure out how to install it. Which is it?

If you don't know how to install an rpm, here's a short tutorial:

Open a terminal, change to root (su), and change directory to wherever the rpm is located.
Use the command: rpm -Uvh filename.rpm to install it.

Use the command: man rpm to learn more about the rpm function.


Gamgee 05-26-2004 10:54 AM

Well, I guess you better just give up, then. Sounds like Linux is not for you.

My point here is that you are not trying to figure anything out, and just want others to spoon feed the answers to you. If you want to use Linux you must learn to do some work yourself, and do some homework. Use Google. Read man pages. Read how-to's. Read books. It takes some effort. Figure it out.

dolphans1 05-26-2004 12:43 PM

How can you even say that? That was sort of a jerk off comment.

I have purchased 3 books on Linux and even read on at a book store recently. The one that was titled an "idiots guide to Linux.

I have done web-searches and even posted on this board to try and get some suggestions and ideas. The book also said one of the drawbacks to Linux is in its lack of customer support and the many differences with installation to software and hardware devices. It suggested that I do exactly what I am trying to do now, which is post on a "friendly" board to try and get some answers.

When you say "homework" do you suggest I sign-up for some college course work on Linux?

d-1



Quote:

Originally posted by Gamgee
Well, I guess you better just give up, then. Sounds like Linux is not for you.

My point here is that you are not trying to figure anything out, and just want others to spoon feed the answers to you. If you want to use Linux you must learn to do some work yourself, and do some homework. Use Google. Read man pages. Read how-to's. Read books. It takes some effort. Figure it out.


Gamgee 05-26-2004 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by dolphans1
I have purchased 3 books on Linux and even read on at a book store recently. The one that was titled an "idiots guide to Linux.
Very appropriate. Hopefully it helped you figure out how to install RPM's, but somehow I doubt it...

MATJA_KAE_92 05-26-2004 11:25 PM

Why on Earth do you guys make all of it so mysteryous?
Just doubleclick the RPM file!
Second best way: Use Control center!
Installing RPMs in Mandrake is a job for 3years old children.
Nothing can be easyer.

dolphans1 05-27-2004 10:49 AM

Oh this is not so, and not true, the 3 year old child quote, heck I wouldn't be on here if it was that easy.

Believe me, I have tried doing just that earlier, even before I posetd.

I have gone to the Mandrake Control Center - then -scrolled down to - software management then scrolled to RpmDrake (which is supposed to help you install RPM software pakages. But, when I use this program and I do a search for the Mozilla file, it only shows programs I can install from the Mandrake CD rom it came with, not any files I downloaded off the net.

If I try and use the update RPM package program, it says it's unable to update medium.

I have tried typing in the install commands in my xterm and I always get an "error message, can't find file.

All this over a simple downloading of a browser.

Is there not anyone out there that has Mandrake 9.2 (not another Linux software program) that has done a similar install that might be able to give me some pointers?

I have saved my downloads to my documents folder. Perhaps that is my problem?

d-1



Quote:

Originally posted by MATJA_KAE_92
Why on Earth do you guys make all of it so mysteryous?
Just doubleclick the RPM file!
Second best way: Use Control center!
Installing RPMs in Mandrake is a job for 3years old children.
Nothing can be easyer.


MATJA_KAE_92 05-27-2004 11:07 AM

OK! I use Slovenian version of MDK, so the translation back to English may be strange, but I hope you will manage to follow.
Make a directory in your /home/user/ and name it RPM.
Move all your downloaded rpms into this new directory
In the Package manager (I guess it must be the English name) open something like source manager or similar.
Here you have option to add sources.
Chose add and in the new opened window check "local file"(guessing again) In the line name type "RPM" and in line "path" (guess) browse to /home/user/RPM. Click OK.
Now you will be able to install downloaded rpms from the control center.
Every time you download a new rpm into "RPM" directory, you must run update sources in package manager.

Penguin be with you! ;)

vdogvictor 05-27-2004 11:54 AM

what is wrong with the mozilla on the mandrake cd's?

dolphans1 05-27-2004 12:14 PM

I am trying to learn how to download and instal software programs off the internet. I have also tried to download and install netscape as well and I have been unsuccessful. I am trying to learn it.

d-1

Quote:

Originally posted by vdogvictor
what is wrong with the mozilla on the mandrake cd's?


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