There is another site I belong to that is lightly moderated and heavily trolled. This doesn't compare in the slightest.

It has a report feature members can click and after it's been reported so many times the questionable post collapses upon itself and cannot be read. A message appears that "This post has been reported XX times", and if you really want to see it you can click on the post and it will maximize so it can be read.

That would be software specific and it doesn't show what he's using that I can see.

Here's another post from the same fool: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...es-4175630135/

How should that be a problem if this system would only apply to newbies with less then 5-10 posts?

My thinking is: what is the first thing a spammer does when he gets an account? He starts spamming. Right?

However remember this is just a (possibly crazy) idea I had, I don't know if it would even be possible to implement. Nothing I'll lose sleep over.

On the other hand, this site is fairly clean and usually crap is removed promptly. But I've see what jsbjsb001 is talking about.

I do have to say, rtmistler has been doing a super job lately when it comes to closing those "one liner, your guess is as good as mine" threads. @rtmistler, Thanks, keep it up

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That's correct.

--jeremy

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Don't get me wrong Jeremy, I have full confidence in you, but I was wondering about at least one of the mod's also having the ability (ONLY when required) to be able to have mod privileges in all forums, rather than just some.

I realize it's up to you.

We have no plans for permission changes of that nature at this time. We do plan to re-evaluate in the future, including the possibility of some form of community moderation.

--jeremy

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Thanks for you reply Jeremy.

May I ask what "community moderation" actually means in practice? I'm guessing it means normal members mod as well ? But I'm not sure that even sounds right, is it?

Well it's not "pointless" as you've made an inference from my post which isn't true and misrepresents what I was trying to say...

It sounds complex and bureaucratic. In my opinion yourself and others proposing this kind of thing are perhaps only focusing on one solution to a long standing problem affecting all messageboards since day 1.

I'm also not sure you've given much thought to those who would be executing this and where the software for the implementation is going to come from.

I'm not trying to be rude or pushy, but it didn't take long before another prime example of what I'm talking about here to happen. The member in question here has not only started going off-topic (as they usually do), but has also started yet another argument with yet another member, first here (over 12 hours ago) and then here insulting me here (almost 12 hours ago now), for saying "No thanks.".

Since when do human biological viruses have anything to do with computer viruses ?? This same member seems to have a nasty habit of being off-topic and being downright rude towards other members - and not only to myself either. I don't understand why (with all respect to LQ/mods/Jeremy) we have to wait 12 hours **IF** there is another mod logged in that could have dealt with the situation by now. IMHO, this same member in question seems to enjoy arguing with other members that dare to disagree with him - even when more than one member is disagreeing.

I'm not just saying this as a rant, it's once again case and point of exactly what I'm talking about. To be clear: I don't care one little bit what this member thinks about anything, but it's the point that matters not what he thinks about xy or z. That said, I think LQ should remove the comments as I believe they fall under "troll/hate" posts. And if this same member can't stay on-topic without getting so hostile (even when people are disagreeing with him) then he should be banned himself. As I don't believe he is particularly helpful a lot of the time here and doesn't have seem to use Linux anyway. I've seen in other instances where the same member in question once again has been warned (and has even been caught out lying) already about his responses - I believe he has been warned a NUMBER of times. In that example not even mod's are safe from his insults. Even when someone just asks a question that he doesn't like, well here's just a few examples:

https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post5841561
https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...7/#post5783341

This combined with the other posts of his that could also be seen in the same light, I believe form a pattern - I know there's more examples related to that same member if you look hard enough. But I can't be bothered going though all of his posting history, but I know for a fact that what I was talking about above IS true. Am I saying I'm perfect? NO, I'm not. And it's **not** about things (or people) being perfect, it's about the fact that we don't need to get personal with each other just because we might disagree from time to time. There's no need for the member to respond like that, if he can just think and do a little bit of research BEFORE he posts.

There's also a very BIG difference between 2-3 hours and over/or almost 12 hours - with all respect to LQ/members/mod's and Jeremy.

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I should also be clear that I'm talking about the technical forums here, who gives a rats a** about the Non-technical General forum (with all respect), most people ain't going to be looking for technical answers there anyway. But I think and myself included, have a responsibility to try and keep the technical forums clean of the sort of rubbish described above. I don't give a rats a** if someone makes an honest mistake (particularly if they edit their post afterwards and correct it anyway), we've ALL done that - no harm done. We are still human, and that's fine. Have NO issue in that case.

I was part of the thread you referenced as being insulted in, and am myself prone to going off-topic. Sometimes it's my roundabout method of making a point at the end. Sometime I'm just out there talking about something that has no bearing whatsoever on the thread and only later realize how far out in the weeds I went. I think that qualifies me to comment on your post but will do so with a Disclaimer:


If that's your idea of being insulted, you've never been insulted by me when I intend to make argument unpleasant. It has no place here.


That seems more akin to what I would consider banter, which is indeed frowned upon to a certain extent in different tech forums. I'm honestly not trying to insult or slight you in the least, and apologize if I have done so, but this is IMO the type of thing that could lead to aforementioned abuse of people being banned.

However, considering my disclaimer my opinion in this area means next to nothing.

That particular member has always posted in that same very argumentative and antagonistic fashion. You're very much aware of that by now - but still continue to engage in tit for tat exchanges with them in the Windows vs Linux thread to cite one such example.

It does come across, that you seem to want him silenced and removed simply because you find him obnoxious and he doesn't agree with you. In my book that's not reason enough to censor or remove someone's comments. He's also posted nothing serious nor offensive enough to warrant immediate action from a "global moderator". i.e. in my opinion such posts can wait until the usual moderator comes by even if that's several hours later.

You see, that sentence kind of invalidates a lot of what you've said above.

That's between the forum staff and the member.

I would have to disagree. The same standards should be held to throughout. The only difference that one area is offtopic the other is not. Also some of the content from that user whom you referred to and complained about was actually in the offtopic section.
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The posts that I've seen from yourself I would not regard as off-topic - but admittedly I have not looked at your posting history, so I can't talk about all of your posts. I did not regard your posts (both in this thread, as well as the one I *think* you're referring to) above as being anything other than on-topic, respectful and an honest comment.

The issue to me is NOT who can land the biggest insult, it's the intention behind the post and clearly in the example your referring to (if I'm thinking of the right example) the member in question IS saying what he said as an insult. I'm not trying to be thin-skinned and have heard far worse both here and particularly in real life - but this is beside the point. The point is that the member was clearly off-topic being the reason I responded with "No thanks.", as in, this is NOT relevant to the topic being discussed.

Once again, computer viruses are NOT biological viruses, are they? It's therefore off-topic, full stop. period. And the same member once again has a proven pattern of just that kind of behavior - that's the point there. It also once again highlights the point I was making about the "coverage" issue with moderation here.

While given you seem hell-bent on turning this around onto me, this will be my last response to you; I'm once again (as I CLEARLY stated) talking about the TECHNICAL FORUMS.

No, you're incorrect. Not worth saying anymore there.

Everyone's entitled to an opinion. Doesn't mean it's true.

Never said it wasn't. I said that because it's the truth. And you're more than happy to state your views.

And you're entitled to.

If you can make this your "last response" to me, then I'm not sure why you can't apply the same or similar logic to those posts/threads and members you're reporting over some perceived slight?

These you referred to were not posted in the technical forums:
And as I've said, so far as I can tell the technical forums are not moderated any differently when it comes to personal attacks, insults, etc?
My point there was that your statement of "I believe he has been warned a NUMBER of times", is just rumour and can't be proven.

We're not all going to get along together on here all the time, because that's just human nature, but there's a big difference between genuine trolling/abuse/inappropriate language and folk being antagonising/irritating.

There are one or two posters on here that I have to admit I find a bit irritating, mostly due to the quality of the information they hand out and/or their insistence in pressing an agenda (whether it be anti- systemd, binary distro, Microsoft etc., or just proselytising their favourite distro when that doesn't even concern the question being answered). However, that's life, we're not all going to agree and if I feel strongly enough about a poster's behaviour in this respect on a particular thread then I'll make my point and leave it at that. After all, some posters may find me irritating too.

We shouldn't water down the point of this thread though. It's supposed to be about handling, in an effective and timely fashion, posters who break LQ's rules and need dealing with quickly due to the nature of the post(s) that remain visible to all on LQ, not those who generally stick to the rules but have an unlikeable or non-constructive posting nature. In my opinion, anyway.

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