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jackx2023 01-01-2023 11:38 PM
Is an Intel celeron or intel atom mini pc faster in performance of a raspberry pi 4
 
hello,

I have a raspberry pi 4 with 4gb ram. It's ok for it's value and specs.

I was looking at mini pc's on amazon and saw a couple of mini pc with either an intel celeron or atom CPU. Are either of these cpus faster than the raspberry pi 4's arm cpu? Or is performance about the same?

- peace

mrmazda 01-02-2023 01:02 AM
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compar..._celeron_n5105 should give you an idea vs. the Celeron. Atom is generally less powerful than Celeron, but it depends on generation and model specifics.

jackx2023 01-02-2023 01:39 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by mrmazda (Post 6401727)
https://www.cpu-monkey.com/en/compar..._celeron_n5105 should give you an idea vs. the Celeron. Atom is generally less powerful than Celeron, but it depends on generation and model specifics.
I don't understand the benchmarh bars. The raspberry pi 4 is green and the intel is blue.

Which is better in performance the short or long bar of the benchmarks?

fatmac 01-02-2023 04:29 AM
I have an older Celeron based PC & an RPi4, my Celeron is faster in real world situations.

I used to have some Atom based netbooks, & they were slower than my RPi4.

jackx2023 01-02-2023 05:06 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatmac (Post 6401751)
I have an older Celeron based PC & an RPi4, my Celeron is faster in real world situations.

I used to have some Atom based netbooks, & they were slower than my RPi4.
I assumed the performance of the RPI4 and intel celeron was about the same as the intel celeron is a low performance type cpu found on budget pc/laptops.

So even if a celeron has a lower frequency and is a dual core, it is still faster than the latest RPI4? thx

rokytnji 01-02-2023 09:19 PM
After struggling with trying to purchase a PI in the USA. Deals are closed down till 2024 here.

I took my 2 instances of saved 50 bucks and bought one used I3 intel NUC box and this chromebook I am posting with.

Code:
harry@antix1:~
$ inxi -v2
System:
  Host: antix1 Kernel: 5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.0 Distro: antiX-22_x64-full Grup Yorum 18 October 2022
Machine:
  Type: Laptop System: GOOGLE product: Candy v: 1.0
    serial: <superuser required>
  Mobo: GOOGLE model: Candy v: 1.0 serial: <superuser required>
    UEFI: coreboot v: MrChromebox-4.18.1 date: 10/27/2022
Battery:
  ID-1: BAT0 charge: 42.0 Wh (100.0%) condition: 42.0/44.5 Wh (94.4%)
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Celeron N2840 [MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1720
    min/max: 500/2582
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel Atom Processor Z36xxx/Z37xxx Series Graphics & Display
    driver: i915 v: kernel
  Device-2: Suyin Integrated_Webcam_HD type: USB driver: uvcvideo
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: i965 gpu: i915 resolution: 1366x768~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.2 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa DRI Intel HD Graphics (BYT)
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Wireless 7260 driver: iwlwifi
  Device-2: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 44.65 GiB used: 19.83 GiB (44.4%)
Info:
  Processes: 145 Uptime: 2h 20m Memory: 3.75 GiB used: 1.23 GiB (32.9%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.23
Your MMV from mine. That NUC box is killer with antiX linux on it.

jackx2023 01-03-2023 12:09 AM
@ rokytnji

Yeah NUC boxes are great but are quite expensive. I just want something a bit more beefier and speed than the RPI4.

Any mini pc under $300 is sufficient enough for me to replace my RPI4 However, I would buy a NUC box one day to replace my main desktop, a HP desktop intel i5.

fatmac 01-03-2023 05:00 AM
I bought a job lot of 15x HP T520 thin clients, (cost me £1.67 each, without PSU), & am converting them to desktop PCs, (they are about as fast as my RPi4), dual 1.2GHz processors with 4GB ram & a 16GB M2 SSD inside, plenty of room for any distro, & I use an external USB drive for major storage.

(These kinds of computers can be bought for about £25~35 off Ebay.)

beachboy2 01-03-2023 06:12 AM
jackx2023,

Why buy new for Linux?

A used Lenovo ThinkPad T440s i5-4300U preferably with 8GB RAM and SSD is ideal for Linux.

I just bought one myself and it flies with EndeavourOS.

rokytnji 01-03-2023 10:57 AM
NUC boxes might be expensive in your area.

Not in mine. RPi 4 are what are expensive here. I paid 70 bucks for a 512MB ram PI with single core arm and it boots my MXPI sd card OK and runs like it is immersed in molasses. You walk away after you open the browser while waiting to load. This is on Fluxbox window manager.

My NUC box was 50 bucks with 4 gig of ram. This chromebook was 47 bucks with 4 gig of ram.

jackx2023 01-03-2023 11:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by rokytnji (Post 6401977)
NUC boxes might be expensive in your area.

Not in mine. RPi 4 are what are expensive here. I paid 70 bucks for a 512MB ram PI with single core arm and it boots my MXPI sd card OK and runs like it is immersed in molasses. You walk away after you open the browser while waiting to load. This is on Fluxbox window manager.

My NUC box was 50 bucks with 4 gig of ram. This chromebook was 47 bucks with 4 gig of ram.
I meant intel NUC mini pc's. The prices are $700 and up.

jackx2023 01-03-2023 11:09 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by fatmac (Post 6401925)
I bought a job lot of 15x HP T520 thin clients, (cost me £1.67 each, without PSU), & am converting them to desktop PCs, (they are about as fast as my RPi4), dual 1.2GHz processors with 4GB ram & a 16GB M2 SSD inside, plenty of room for any distro, & I use an external USB drive for major storage.

(These kinds of computers can be bought for about £25~35 off Ebay.)
That's great but I don't like buying used or refurbished stuff even if the price is a steal. :)

jackx2023 01-03-2023 11:10 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by beachboy2 (Post 6401933)
jackx2023,

Why buy new for Linux?

A used Lenovo ThinkPad T440s i5-4300U preferably with 8GB RAM and SSD is ideal for Linux.

I just bought one myself and it flies with EndeavourOS.
Nah, looking for a mini pc form factor to be used as a headless server.

rokytnji 01-04-2023 09:18 AM
Quote:
You bought this item.INTEL NUC5i3RYK Intel i3-5010U CPU 2.10GHz 32GB SSD 4GB RAM - No OS. Price:
US $54.99
Okey Dokey. I know what you meant.

Code:
harry@scooter:~
$ inxi -v2
System:
  Host: scooter Kernel: 5.10.153-antix.1-amd64-smp arch: x86_64 bits: 64
    Desktop: IceWM v: 3.3.0 Distro: antiX-22_x64-full Grup Yorum 18 October 2022
Machine:
  Type: Desktop Mobo: Intel model: NUC5i3RYB v: H41000-505
    serial: <superuser required> UEFI-[Legacy]: Intel
    v: RYBDWi35.86A.0361.2016.1202.1005 date: 12/02/2016
CPU:
  Info: dual core Intel Core i3-5010U [MT MCP] speed (MHz): avg: 1996
    min/max: 500/2000
Graphics:
  Device-1: Intel HD Graphics 5500 driver: i915 v: kernel
  Display: server: X.Org v: 1.20.11 driver: X: loaded: modesetting
    unloaded: fbdev,vesa dri: iris gpu: i915 resolution: 1360x768~60Hz
  API: OpenGL v: 4.6 Mesa 20.3.5 renderer: Mesa Intel HD Graphics 5500 (BDW
    GT2)
Network:
  Device-1: Intel Ethernet I218-V driver: e1000e
  Device-2: Intel Wireless 7265 driver: iwlwifi
  Device-3: Intel Bluetooth wireless interface type: USB driver: btusb
Drives:
  Local Storage: total: 961.33 GiB used: 289.51 GiB (30.1%)
Info:
  Processes: 169 Uptime: 1h 8m Memory: 3.72 GiB used: 1.36 GiB (36.5%)
  Shell: Bash inxi: 3.3.23
harry@scooter:~

jackx2023 01-04-2023 06:56 PM
Thanks to all here for your replies. I got my question answered here from you guys.

The intel celeron is indeed faster/higher performance than an arm cpu of a raspberry pi. But a few bucks more I might get a mini pc with an intel i3 or better. ;)


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