Looking for a distro with a solid stable base system and rolling application software
Hi there,
I'm looking for a Linux distribution that has a solid stable base system (kernel, standard base libraries and utils and also DE) and rolling/latest application and development software (Firefox, LibreOffice, JDK, Python, Go, Git, docker, k8s, etc.). All distros that I know are either the whole stable and not latest or the whole rolling/latest and less stable. I need a hybrid. Please advise. |
The nearest thing to what you want, I think, are immutable distros:
https://itsfoss.com/immutable-linux-distros/ |
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I don't think you'll find any like that. No such thing as the perfect distro, just try a few 'til you find the one that suits you best.
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The closest you can get to that is probably Debian with Flatpaks (what I do) / Snaps / AppImages. If you can't stomach those type of packages then you can create a distro to be like you want but it's a huge job and not worth the effort imho
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You might want to give MaboxLinux a look. Based on Manjaro and Arch with LTS kernels available but is a rolling distro. WM is openbox but I am pretty sure you could install your preference of DE that you would like. I have it multibooted on all of the laptops I use and is one of my goto distros that I use regularly.
https://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=mabox https://maboxlinux.org/ |
You might want to take a look at Debian Sid.
I have found Debian "Unstable" to be as stable, sometimes more stable, than many distros' stable. |
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That means that Linux still isn't ready for desktop/workstation usage. There is no way out of Windows. Linux on desktops/workstations is very fragmented and made without any good prospect. This is why most software engineers use or like to use macOS and not Linux. Even the similarly looking GNOME doesn't help and just sucks. I need a solid stable base system, preferable with the Cinnamon DE And I need the latest other software. I think most people who need computer for work and not for masturbation on a particular distribution of Penguin need the same system and the same application software repository. Decades are passed and Linux still sucks on personal computers and I continue using Windows. WTF? |
That's not true. It's quite capable. The problem is who decides which packages stay static and stable and which get updated. Since no one can agree on that choice it's quite impossible to have a single distro like you describe. It's not a matter of Linux being capable. It's a matter of everyone having an opinion on what is necessary. The only thing Linux really gives you is the choice to do what you want. With Win / Mac you get what they give you and that is the end of it.
You are right that there is no way out of Windows for some people. Flatpaks / Snaps / AppImages are the answer to what you are requesting but they are controversial because one loses much of the power of a *nix system when you use them. What you ask for is simply not possible in an open development environment. It's like getting a group of 10 people to agree on pizza toppings. Have fun with that. To my mind this is the only weakness in the *nix ecosystem. The raw freedom causes much conflict and many just don't get what they want, or think it can't exist unless they do it themselves. |
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Linux is not for you. That much is clear. But it's quite capable for a huge number of people. Just because it's not good for you doesn't mean that it is the problem. It just doesn't, and really can't quite do what you are suggesting. That is an intentional design choice. *EDIT* A further thought. I think it's safe to say that you are not the first person to want something like this. I can all but guarantee it. The reason it doesn't exist is because it would require an entirely new approach and design for the distro. They generally follow standards. You would have to dump the standards to accomplish what you want. I'm not knocking the idea, I rather like it. I just think you don't realize how difficult this would be to do under the current standards that Linux distros tend to follow. There is a reason what you want likely doesn't exist thus far. If you can get past the myriad of hurdles that this would bring, which I'm sure are all solvable then you would potentially have a golden distro on your hands. You would need a way to keep current and stable libraries without them conflicting. You would likely need an entirely new package manager to deal with multiple locations of said libraries. You would have to redefine the FHS (file system hierarchy standard) for this distro. |
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but found them not very interesting. Good luck with 11, 12, etc. |
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Then I wish you the best. Clearly you know far more than anyone here.
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