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Wierd Nouveau Problem after Kernel Upgrade to 6.2

Hello,

After googling and attempting everything I can think of, I am giving up and asking for your help... :-(

In one classroom where I teach, I have an older PC which runs KUbuntu 22.04.3 LTS with the newly freshly upgraded Kernel to 6.2.0-26-generic version.

For the moment, I have 2 kernels:

Code:

administrator@instructor-pc [~] $ ls -l /boot/ |grep vmli

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root        24 aug  3 17:58 vmlinuz -> vmlinuz-6.2.0-26-generic

-rw------- 1 root root  12224488 iul 10 20:41 vmlinuz-5.19.0-50-generic

-rw------- 1 root root  13770312 iul 13 18:31 vmlinuz-6.2.0-26-generic

lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root        25 aug  3 17:58 vmlinuz.old -> vmlinuz-5.19.0-50-generic

Booting the new Kernel breaks things.
Booting the old Kernel everything works greatly.

I have an old Nvidia Card:

Code:

administrator@instructor-pc [~] $ lspci |grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G86 [GeForce 8500 GT] (rev a1)

Naturally, I use nouveau.
NVidia Drivers are no longer available for this type of card (in the normal repos).
Doing (ubuntu-drivers devices) does not reveal any available drivers.

And even if they were, I don't want to rebuild Nvidia module everytime a kernel upgrade is performed... from what I heard, NVidia Drivers are sometimes worse than Nouveau.

Nouveau works fine for me... worked, being the operative word... now, it cannot find/load 2 firwmare files...

Yes, I have already installed nouveau-firmware:

Code:

nouveau-firmware is already the newest version (20091212-0ubuntu1).

A little more info:

Code:

instructor-pc [~] # lshw -c video

  *-display                

      description: VGA compatible controller

      product: G86 [GeForce 8500 GT]

      vendor: NVIDIA Corporation

      physical id: 0

      bus info: pci@0000:01:00.0

      logical name: /dev/fb0

      version: a1

      width: 64 bits

      clock: 33MHz

      capabilities: pm msi pciexpress vga_controller bus_master cap_list rom fb

      configuration: depth=32 driver=nouveau latency=0 resolution=1440,900

      resources: irq:30 memory:fc000000-fcffffff memory:d0000000-dfffffff memory:fa000000-fbffffff ioport:bc00(size=128) memory:c0000-dffff

instructor-pc [~]

And the main culprit (if it is the culprit!):

Code:

instructor-pc [~] # dmesg |grep nouveau

[    4.284583] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console

[    4.284640] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA G86 (086100a2)

[    4.387017] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bios: version 60.86.34.00.13

[    4.408220] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bios: M0203T not found

[    4.408229] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bios: M0203E not matched!

[    4.408232] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fb: 512 MiB DDR2

[    4.481632] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: VRAM: 512 MiB

[    4.481636] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: GART: 1048576 MiB

[    4.481640] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TMDS table version 2.0

[    4.481643] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB version 4.0

[    4.481646] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 00: 02000300 00000028

[    4.481650] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 01: 01000302 00020030

[    4.481653] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 02: 04011310 00000028

[    4.481655] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 03: 010223f1 00c0c080

[    4.481658] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 00: 1030

[    4.481661] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 01: 0100

[    4.481664] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 02: 0210

[    4.481666] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 03: 0211

[    4.481668] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 04: 0213

[    4.483330] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: MM: using CRYPT for buffer copies

[    4.492507] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: failed to create encoder 0/1/0: -19

[    4.492512] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TV-1 has no encoders, removing

[    4.743588] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.3.1 20120801 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0

[    4.783642] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[    4.785634] fbcon: nouveaudrmfb (fb0) is primary device

[    4.832010] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: [drm] fb0: nouveaudrmfb frame buffer device

[  14.793574] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  74.911227] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  79.750942] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  79.793910] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  80.479481] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  80.520935] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  80.580412] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  80.622017] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  82.130039] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc00f failed with error -2

[  82.130055] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc00f

[  82.130060] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vp: init failed, -2

[  82.130914] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Direct firmware load for nouveau/nv84_xuc103 failed with error -2

[  82.130921] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: unable to load firmware nouveau/nv84_xuc103

[  82.130925] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bsp: init failed, -2

[  96.036322] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

[  97.532651] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: [DRM/00000002:dac-0000-0304] [LOAD_DETECT data:00000154] load:07 (ret:-5)

instructor-pc [~] #

So, I don't know what the hell to do anymore...

I love linux, I really do, that's why I purged Windows and installed Linux in my labs, but sometimes, these Kernel upgrades break things that WORK, things that actually WORK and really cuts of people's enthusiasm for using Linux & Opensource software in different environments...

If anyone has an ideea, I'm all ears (or more accurately, eyes) :-)

Thank you.

1-why the installation of 6.2 kernel?

2-from where did you get it? installed how?

3-are you aware that nouveau has multiple meanings? See here.

4-using 6.2, what's the first apparent evidence something is broken, specific symptoms?

I would check the source of your 6.2 kernel for a newer libdrm-nouveau2.

I have G84 and G98 running various current and devel distros with no apparent issues. This is from an even older one:

Code:

# inxi -GSaz --vs --zl --hostname

inxi 3.3.28-00 (2023-07-10)

System:

  Host: mcp61 Kernel: 6.4.0-1-amd64 arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc

    v: 13.1.0 clocksource: tsc available: acpi_pm parameters: root=LABEL=<filter>

    ipv6.disable=1 net.ifnames=0 noresume consoleblank=0 preempt=full

    mitigations=off

  Desktop: Trinity v: R14.1.1~[DEVELOPMENT] tk: Qt v: 3.5.0 info: kicker

    wm: Twin v: 3.0 vt: 7 dm: 1: TDM 2: XDM Distro: Debian GNU/Linux trixie/sid

Graphics:

  Device-1: NVIDIA C61 [GeForce 6150SE nForce 430] vendor: Micro-Star MSI

    driver: nouveau v: kernel non-free: series: 304.xx status: legacy (EOL)

    last: release: 304.137 kernel: 4.13 xorg: 1.19 arch: Curie

    process: 90-130nm built: 2003-13 ports: active: VGA-1 empty: none

    bus-ID: 00:0d.0 chip-ID: 10de:03d0 class-ID: 0300

  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.7 driver: X: loaded: modesetting

    unloaded: fbdev,vesa alternate: nouveau,nv dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau

    display-ID: :0 screens: 1

  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 1680x1050 s-dpi: 108 s-size: 395x246mm (15.55x9.69")

    s-diag: 465mm (18.32")

  Monitor-1: VGA-1 model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter> built: 2012

    res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2 size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65")

    diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes: max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400

  API: OpenGL v: 2.1 Mesa 22.3.6 renderer: NV4C direct-render: Yes

# lsmod | egrep 'veau|vid' | sort

button                24576  1 nouveau

drm                  720896  7 drm_kms_helper,drm_display_helper,drm_ttm_helper,ttm,nouveau

drm_display_helper    212992  1 nouveau

drm_kms_helper        253952  4 drm_display_helper,nouveau

drm_ttm_helper        12288  1 nouveau

i2c_algo_bit          12288  1 nouveau

mxm_wmi                12288  1 nouveau

nouveau              2887680  1

ttm                  102400  2 drm_ttm_helper,nouveau

video                  69632  1 nouveau

wmi                    36864  3 video,mxm_wmi,nouveau

# dpkg-query -W | egrep 'mwar|veau|xserver-xorg'

firmware-sof-signed    2.2.6-1

libdrm-nouveau2:amd64  2.4.115-1

xserver-xorg    1:7.7+23

xserver-xorg-core      2:21.1.7-3

xserver-xorg-input-libinput    1.2.1-1+b1

xserver-xorg-legacy    2:21.1.7-3

xserver-xorg-video-fbdev        1:0.5.0-2

xserver-xorg-video-vesa 1:2.5.0-1+b1

#

Hello,

1. This kernel came naturally in my "apt update ; apt full-upgrade" update script.
I assume it is the newest kernel for the 22.04.3 LTS

2. From the repos. Normal update script.

3. By "nouveau" I mean the GPU drivers. Opensource replacement drivers for Nvidia drivers.

4. Booting the new kernel does not recognize my second monitor. (and I see those console messages saying that it failed to load that firmware)
Booting the old 5.* kernel instantly recognizez my second monitor . (I did not check those console messages with the old kernel).

It is clearly something with the new kernel that affects the Nouveau of Firwmare or whatever that my second monitor does not get input from my GPU card...

I will check libdrm-nouveau2 when I get to my lab... however, I already issued an "apt full-upgrade" on that system... It should have been updated, right ?...

I did a dist-upgrade 3 weeks ago and didn't get 22.04.3. I just finished doing a repeat. That got me 22.04.3, but yet another 5.15 kernel:

Code:

# grep upgrade .bash_history | tail -3

time apt-get upgrade

time apt-get full-upgrade

time apt-get dist-upgrade

# grep RETT /etc/os-release

PRETTY_NAME="Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS"

# xdriinfo

Screen 0: nouveau

# inxi -GSazr --vs --zl --hostname

inxi 3.3.28-00 (2023-07-10)

System:

  Host: big41 Kernel: 5.15.0-78-generic arch: x86_64 bits: 64 compiler: gcc

    v: 11.3.0 parameters: ro root=LABEL=<filter> net.ifnames=0 ipv6.disable=1

    noresume plymouth.enable=0 consoleblank=0 preempt=full mitigations=off

  Desktop: Trinity v: R14.1.0 tk: Qt v: 3.5.0 info: kicker wm: Twin v: 3.0

    vt: 7 dm: 1: TDM 2: XDM Distro: Ubuntu 22.04.3 LTS (Jammy Jellyfish)

Graphics:

  Device-1: NVIDIA G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] vendor: XFX Pine driver: nouveau

    v: kernel alternate: nvidiafb non-free: series: 340.xx status: legacy (EOL)

    last: release: 340.108 kernel: 5.4 xorg: 1.20 arch: Tesla process: 40-80nm

    built: 2006-13 pcie: gen: 1 speed: 2.5 GT/s lanes: 16 ports:

    active: DVI-I-1,DVI-I-2 empty: none bus-ID: 01:00.0 chip-ID: 10de:0402

    class-ID: 0300 temp: 78.0 C

  Display: x11 server: X.Org v: 1.21.1.4 driver: X: loaded: modesetting

    alternate: fbdev,vesa dri: nouveau gpu: nouveau display-ID: :0 screens: 1

  Screen-1: 0 s-res: 3600x1200 s-dpi: 120 s-size: 762x254mm (30.00x10.00")

    s-diag: 803mm (31.62")

  Monitor-1: DVI-I-1 pos: primary,left model: NEC EA243WM serial: <filter>

    built: 2011 res: 1920x1200 hz: 60 dpi: 94 gamma: 1.2

    size: 519x324mm (20.43x12.76") diag: 612mm (24.1") ratio: 16:10 modes:

    max: 1920x1200 min: 640x480

  Monitor-2: DVI-I-2 pos: right model: Dell P2213 serial: <filter>

    built: 2012 res: 1680x1050 hz: 60 dpi: 90 gamma: 1.2

    size: 473x296mm (18.62x11.65") diag: 558mm (22") ratio: 16:10 modes:

    max: 1680x1050 min: 720x400

  API: OpenGL v: 3.3 Mesa 23.0.4-0ubuntu1~22.04.1 renderer: NV84

    direct-render: Yes

Repos:

  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list

    1: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy main restricted universe multiverse

    2: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-updates main restricted universe multiverse

    3: deb http://us.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jammy-backports main restricted universe multiverse

    4: deb http://archive.canonical.com/ubuntu jammy partner

    5: deb http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu jammy-security main restricted universe multiverse

    6: deb http://mirror.ppa.trinitydesktop.org/trinity/deb/trinity-r14.1.x jammy main deps

  Active apt repos in: /etc/apt/sources.list.d/debugpkgs.list

    1: deb http://ddebs.ubuntu.com/ jammy main restricted universe multiverse

# lsmod | egrep 'vid|veau' | sort

drm                  622592  6 drm_kms_helper,drm_ttm_helper,ttm,nouveau

drm_kms_helper        311296  1 nouveau

drm_ttm_helper        16384  1 nouveau

i2c_algo_bit          16384  1 nouveau

mxm_wmi                16384  1 nouveau

nouveau              2306048  2

ttm                    86016  2 drm_ttm_helper,nouveau

video                  65536  1 nouveau

wmi                    32768  2 mxm_wmi,nouveau

# dpkg-query -W | egrep 'veau|mwar|drm' | sort

firmware-sof-signed    2.0-1ubuntu4.1

libdrm2:amd64  2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1

libdrm-amdgpu1:amd64    2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1

libdrm-common  2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1

libdrm-intel1:amd64    2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1

libdrm-nouveau2:amd64  2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1

libdrm-radeon1:amd64    2.4.113-2~ubuntu0.22.04.1

linux-firmware  20220329.git681281e4-0ubuntu3.17

nouveau-firmware        20091212-0ubuntu1

# locate nv84_xuc103

# dmesg | grep veau

[    1.001884] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: vgaarb: deactivate vga console

[    1.002914] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: NVIDIA G84 (084200a2)

[    1.106246] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: bios: version 60.84.58.00.11

[    1.127017] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: fb: 512 MiB GDDR3

[    1.189718] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: VRAM: 512 MiB

[    1.189729] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: GART: 1048576 MiB

[    1.189734] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TMDS table version 2.0

[    1.189738] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB version 4.0

[    1.189741] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 00: 02000300 00000028

[    1.189745] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 01: 01000302 00010030

[    1.189749] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 02: 04011310 00000028

[    1.189752] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 03: 02011312 00010030

[    1.189756] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB outp 04: 010223f1 00c0c080

[    1.189760] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 00: 2030

[    1.189763] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 01: 1130

[    1.189766] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 02: 0210

[    1.189769] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 03: 0211

[    1.189772] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: DCB conn 04: 0213

[    1.191292] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: MM: using CRYPT for buffer copies

[    1.193341] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: failed to create encoder 0/1/0: -19

[    1.193347] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: TV-1 has no encoders, removing

[    1.196452] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: therm: temperature (89 C) hit the 'fanboost' threshold

[    1.288932] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DRM: allocated 1920x1200 fb: 0x70000, bo (____ptrval____)

[    1.304549] fbcon: nouveaudrmfb (fb0) is primary device

[    1.497275] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: [drm] fb0: nouveaudrmfb frame buffer device

[    1.511950] [drm] Initialized nouveau 1.3.1 20120801 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0

[    1.546826] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: therm: temperature (86 C) went below the 'fanboost' threshold

#

Aptitude search shows 6.2 kernels available. Besides using apt instead of apt-get, what did you do that got you one installed?

I just discovered this now.

On my systems which I freshly installed using Kubuntu 22.04.2 , I already had the "linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04" package.
This automatically pulled in the new 6.2 kernel as soon as it was available.

On my other systems on which I originally had 20.04 LTS and upgraded to 22.04 LTS, I was missing the above package.
I've installed it:

Code:

apt install linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04

and this got me the new 6.2 kernel on these systems as well.

The key, I supose, is to have that package installed to pull in the new kernel earlier than it would normally be (backport ?)

All nice and great, real happy for 6.2 kernel, but my nouveau problem still bugs me... :-(

All seems good here on G84 with 6.2:

Code:

# uname -r

6.2.0-26-generic

# lspci | grep VGA

01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: NVIDIA Corporation G84 [GeForce 8600 GT] (rev a1)

# lsmod | egrep 'vid|veau' | sort

drm                  696320  7 drm_kms_helper,drm_display_helper,drm_ttm_helper,ttm,nouveau

drm_display_helper    212992  1 nouveau

drm_kms_helper        249856  4 drm_display_helper,nouveau

drm_ttm_helper        16384  1 nouveau

i2c_algo_bit          16384  1 nouveau

mxm_wmi                16384  1 nouveau

nouveau              2826240  1

ttm                  110592  2 drm_ttm_helper,nouveau

video                  73728  1 nouveau

wmi                    40960  3 video,mxm_wmi,nouveau

#

Installing HWE only added:

Code:

# dpkg-query -W | grep 6.2.0

linux-image-6.2.0-26-generic    6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1

linux-image-generic-hwe-22.04  6.2.0.26.26~22.04.7

linux-modules-6.2.0-26-generic  6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1

linux-modules-extra-6.2.0-26-generic    6.2.0-26.26~22.04.1

#

The installation process did cause a lot of "W: Possible missing firmware" messages (all including string nvidia, none nouveau), but I see a lot of that here, with no apparent ill effect.

Solved using nvidia-340 for Kubuntu 22.04.3 LTS.

Installed nvidia-340 from kelebek333 PPA, as this package is no longer in the main repos...

Code:

sudo add-apt-repository ppa:kelebek333/nvidia-legacy

sudo apt update 

sudo apt install nvidia-340 nvidia-340-updates nvidia-340-updates-dev xorg-modulepath-fix

Rebooted and driver seems to be working OK...

Original reference: https://www.reddit.com/r/linux_gamin...204/?rdt=55778

Be warned, 340 driver is end of life, that solution is only going to work for a little bit longer, unless you don't change kernels, then it will be fine as long as you run that kernel.

Don't upgrade to newer kernel, I don't have the direct info where 340 latest kernel support ends, but many drivers are failing on 6.5 except for very latest release, and there is no latest for 340 as far as I know.