Quote:
Originally Posted by wstewart
(Post 4844599)
I find it pretty hard to believe that you know any RHCAs who can't do basic linux tasks since the exams themseves actually involve doing complex linux tasks. You can't just cross your fingers and hope you get the right answer and chances are if they spent thousands of dollars on the many exams you have to take to get an RHCA they're probably working with Red Hat on a daily basis and can retain at least basic information. You might have seen some paper certs but I don't believe you know an RHCA who can't create a user account unless they lied to you about having the cert in the first place.
|
I have no idea why you have decided to (essentially), just call me a liar, nor why you persist, especially with multiple posts like this. What's the problem?? And honestly, I don't care what you believe. Most of them have been with some 'quality' outsourcing companies that have tried to get to work with us, and several others have come for interviews.
Again, you seem to be missing several key points, and I have no idea why you seem bound and determined to call me a liar, and doubt what I'm saying, especially since:
- You've not been there
- You're not paying attention to what's been said here.
I'll again say this, since you've missed it a few times now:
some people don't care about the knowledge, they just want the certificate. Do some research...there are many sites you can find online that have practice exams, and torrents with questions/answers. Wrong and against the RHEL NDA agreement? Absolutely. Are they available for anyone who wants them? Sure are. Again, some folks just don't care....they get a 'certification', and get a job. The companies they work for don't care, since they then try to sell their services with a "Hey, look at US...ALL of our 'specialists' have certifications!!" spiel.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wstewart
FYI I work in the real world. Paper cert guys don't last too long out here and anybody who managed to make it all the way to RHCA probably has to know there stuff.
|
Nope, sorry, they don't. Yes, they are easy to spot and don't last long, but then that's not the POINT of this thread, is it? They SHOULD know what they're doing, but again, I've met several who don't.
Quote:
Originally Posted by wstewart
Take a look at the RHCSA objectives. You have to actually do all of those tasks on a live system just to pass that one exam and your paying $400 just to take it. Then take a look at the objectives for RHCE because it only gets harder. You're not going to braindump or cram for something like that. You're going to have to lab and actually get some experience using linux whether in a business or personal environment.
Both of those exams are $400 a piece and are a prerequisite to the RHCA. If you paid that $800 dollars and however much you may have spent on the training for the exam, I don't think you're going to cough up at least another $3745 for the 5 exams($749 each) you need to get an RHCA if you haven't already landed a linux admin job to get some kind of ROI. And if you've got a linux admin job based on those certs then I don't think you're going to be able to keep that job for too long without actually knowing what you're doing unless your boss is just paying you to look pretty. On top of that, each one of those exams are just plain hard and require you to actually know how to do each one of those tasks. Not just memorize a few commands or guess some answers. The more advanced exams are also not to generous with time so if you don't know what you're doing then you will fail. You're essentially saying you know MANY("your own words") people who don't know how to do something that they had to prove that they could do to get what they have and that's a pretty bold statement. I could understand if you claimed you knew RHCAs who have no hardware knowledge.
|
I know what my own words were...and again, I don't care if you believe it or not. To me, more than 7 (which I can remember off the top of my head), constitutes 'many'. Again, I don't know what the problem is..I have said nothing against you personally, yet you have taken a rather harsh tone here, and essentially called me a liar for no good reason.
Take a look through the threads here, there are lots more folks than me who have met folks with dubious certifications. Also look through threads here where folks ask for the answers point-blank. Here, they don't get provided...other sites? Not so much of an issue. And I know what the objectives are, and what they SHOULD mean. They don't. And don't forget that many companies will reimburse you for the exam costs, so it's ZERO out of pocket for someone who just uses rote memorization and answer dumps. I've been an administrator for over 25 years now....have run my own company for the past decade. If you haven't met these jokers yet, you will.