Yup! Clear case of Satanic voter fraud since there is no way Biden could have actually beaten one appointed by God. BTW it's why nobody can source the gold sneakers as they are made by angels slaving away tirelessly. ;) <sarc>

Let's just leave "God" and "Satan" out of the picture, @enorbet. The people who legitimately feel that "election fraud occurred" are actually: plaintiffs. Because, if "election fraud" did occur, and no matter how it may have been perpetrated, that's a federal crime for which quite a few folks are right now in prison.

And, unfortunately, from a technological and procedural standpoint, our present "election systems" are anything but(!) "accountable" and "secure." In fact, "they suck."

Suck? Despite all the desperate searching resulting in the determination 2020 was one of the most carefully monitored and least fraudulent elections of all time?

The whole God and Satan thing I'm sure you know isn't coming from me. It's coming from interviews I see with MAGA and the Tshirts and hats they wear and the signs they carry. It even appears right here on LQN with more than one poster saying God has in the past anointed rank sinners to do good work and applied that to The Donald. Pure absolution in my book.

You apparently believe that "the 2020 election was pristine," while I watch surveillance footage (from cameras that the occupants of the building hadn't considered ...) which show ballot boxes being removed from under a table and shoved through scanners multiple times in the middle of the night. You choose to "believe" that the election was pure because you prefer the "results" that it produced.

But, there are millions of what-should-be plaintiffs out there who believe that they are seeing the evidence of a Federal Crime. Which isn't being prosecuted or pursued by anyone because they, too "prefer" the "results." It is indeed conspicuous that every case that was brought – even by US States – was "dismissed on procedural grounds," and therefore never heard. (While people who dared to protest are still rotting in prison, still "awaiting trial" that obviously will never come.)

Maybe all of this is "okay" for you. But always remember: "... and then they came for me."

There are, in fact, hundreds of millions of people who don't want to live in "a country like that."

In the way that the legal system is supposed to work, those who believe – rightly or wrongly – that a crime has been committed against them, are entitled to accuse. Against which accusations the accused has an elaborate system of rights and defenses. The result is then to be "a trial, subject to appeal." That's the way it's supposed to be. And this circumstance is no different, except that it has "hundreds of millions of 'plaintiffs.'" Who claim that they are being denied the right to be heard.

According to the Fulton county election commission that is where they put ballots to be counted and there was nothing unusual or irregular that happened. If you only see part of the video then you might conclude something bad was happening. There was the other video of one election worker handing another a ginger mint which went viral. An investigation found nothing wrong in either case.

As far as I know Federal election crimes are basically voter fraud, campaign finance and civil rights. No election expert has publicly stated there was significant voter fraud that would change the 2020 election results. I believe the Texas suite suing the swing states failed. IMHO that would indicate there isn't million of would be plaintiffs.

EXCELLENT point, and testified to by every certified investigator including the ones who are hard-core Republicans.

Objecting to that is just ignorant. Anyone who studies the readers knows that they CAN make mistakes, and that the ballots are run though multiple times to ensure that each time is read the same to detect errors. If erors are detected they can be hand checked with witnesses and corrected to match the voters intent. The ballots have identification so they CANNOT count twice, even if they are read through 100 times.

Gee it seems to me ol Rupert could have literally spent $500,000,000.00 to gather, proof, and make this public on his own "news" network and saved himself a cool 1/3 Billion Dollars. I wonder why he didn't invest in that?

Thanks, but what I meant to say was -

Could DT be president and in prison at the same time?

The first paragraph in post 229 above was part of a specific court case which was explained by the officials in charge. This was explained publicly, in court with this information available to anyone who can read and the Trump supporters who made this claim, the attorneys were allowed to prevent evidence, of which there was none.

Did you mean "prevent evidence" or "present evidence" in that post?

'Dementia Joe' must have missed his drug infusion before this CNN interview:

"Biden said on Wednesday that “no president has had the run we’ve had in terms of creating jobs and bringing down inflation.”

“It was 9% when I came to office. 9%. But look, people have a right to be concerned. Ordinary people.”

Inflation actually peaked at 9.1% in June 2022. In January 2021, when Biden was sworn in, it was 1.4%."
https://www.cnn.com/2024/05/08/polit...ntv/index.html
https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/13/econo...une/index.html
https://www.bls.gov/news.release/arc...i_02102021.pdf

Don't worry about high grocery prices, in the same interview Joe says you have the extra money to cover it:
'CNN: "Grocery prices are up 30%+ ... that's a real day-to-day pain that people feel..."

BIDEN: "They have the money to spend!"'

Yes.

I'm confused, mjolnir. On one hand you appear to have considerable in common with the Conservative side of economics and politics, but on the other you expect a US President to be able to control the prices of groceries?

Or maybe I'm not confused, maybe you're just a Party kinda guy, and a modern party kinda guy at that with little collaboration or concern for America and simply devoted to nitpicking every negative little detail you can spin about "the other party" while absolving even major negative details about MAGA Republicans. Where do you actually stand?

Not entirely, but that's the way the game is played on both sides. Biden said some demonstably false things in the interview that even that bastion of conservatism, CNN, felt it had to point out. :)

"Presidents are much like quarterbacks, they get too much credit when times are good and too much blame when times are bad. Still, that's the way the game is played." https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...ml#post6491886