Bodhi 5.1 rc release now available
My last thread on The BL 5.1 ISOs I have working on was a great success. There were some great Ideas on improvements and no major issues discovered. Thanks to all those that tested, commented or talked to me elsewhere with suggestions or issues noted :)
With these ideas in mind, we now have Bodhi 5.1 Release Candidate ISOs available for testing. Only 64 bit rc ISO images are provided at the moment. Don't worry tho, a 32 bit ISO alpha release is available and will be fully supported upon our final release. Most users will want to download and test bodhi-5.1.0-64-rc.iso This features the linux kernel version 4.15.0-88. The hwe release is for users wanting a more recent kernel (5.3.0-40) and kernel updates. Be sure to read the readme files found at this Sourceforge site. Bilingual users who wish to help with our current localization efforts would be greatly appreciated. Anyone wish to help with documentation esp updating our quickstart guide to reflect changes in this release please contact us or comment here. Much thanks to Štefan 'the waiter' Uram for his work on both the code and the themes and icons, Bodhi would not be the same without his creative input. To Alejandro Díaz again for his translation efforts and our current collaboration, and to Kiezel (Pjotr) for his work on localization, promotion and great suggestions on Improvements. And to Philippe J. Guillaumie for providing Moksha with full support for the french language. Also thanks to 'alanwardubuntu' for providing us with Catalan support for our Installer and a Discord user, whose name merely shows up as Roy in my email, for providing us with Hebrew support for our installer. And to ryenigma for providing the screenshots for new Quick Start and starting work on some new wiki articles for this release :) Bodhi is a community based Distro and without Teamwork it would cease to be. So I hate to reiterate but donations of time, energy or money are greatly appreciated. Thanks to all for making this possible. |
Thanks much! I gave it a shot. And I'll share some things I observed during install...
Cool that we can install right from the menu without booting live. However, this didn't work for me the first time because I have a TV plugged into my HDMI port on my laptop. At the time I didnt have the TV on, but as the cable goes directly to my AVR, pc probably sees something is alive even when TV off (as I had AVR on for radio). What I saw on my laptop screen was just a dark background with grey title bar, no text anywhere, but my mouse could move around. Turned out the installer was on my TV which I discovered later. Unplugging HDMI cable prevented this. However I don't think it should have happened anyway.... Since my first attempt at installing didnt work (before I figured out the HDMI issue) I booted into live and turned on wifi successfully. The quick-intro popup is good. [EDIT: NOT REPEATABLE, Didnt happen again when I tried again, so please ignore this: For some reason, I couldn't connec to most websites under live using the built in browser. Not even google.com. I could connect to my providers website, so it wasn't completely broken. I don't understand.] The tiny terminology window is cute. Although maybe you want a slightly bigger font as default. I tried installing from live, it was going incredibly slow but seemed to be working, and didnt care that my hdmi cable wasn't plugged in. The only other comment on the install was it didnt ask me to remove my install media when I was done before rebooting, I seem to recall bodhi used to tell me to do that. |
Once installed, the change in appearance is very noticeable. There is only one theme choice besides default, and they aren't much different. All the icons have a plain green look, even on apps that I installed afterwards, seems its not always using the colorful icons I thought were built into the apps (i.e. Firefox). I'm not familiar with this theming/icon set stuff, but will be looking into how to get colorful icons back. Also want to get a start menu with black background and no green highlighting, not happy with either of the two choices that come with it. But this is all personal preference stuff, although on previous version there were more theme choices and icons were more colorful automatically I thought.
So one of the very first things I did was install firefox from terminal, then install discord from the official website. Without gdebi installed, there seems to be no way to install debs direct from browser, not sure why that app isn't included anymore (is there a recommended alternative?), so installed it. But it doesn't work cuz gdebi doesn't ask for root password like it's supposed to. After clicking the 'install' box it just dies. When I tried to 'open containing folder' from firefox download, it uses ephoto to open folders instead of pcmanfm like it should. On a not so big deal but noticed it, the taskbar as to the left of the ibar. I think taskbar should be to the right (so quicklaunch icons dont move when apps are opened)....but obviously can be rearranged myself. I previously used xinput to disable my touchpad or else it messes up me typing. Had to install that manually. Is there a way to disable trackpad w/o installing anything? Is there a way to have numlock default to on? I previously installed an app called numlockx and put it in startup commands for this. |
I am unsure which ISO you tested. But they all 'act' more or less the same, so anyway thanks for the feedback.
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1. Colored icons back - open Application theme settings and under Icons tab uncheck "Match Moksha theme if possible". Then choose any icon theme you like. Default is checked. My aim was to make monochrome and elegant green icons set with small memory footprint. The whole set size is just 2,4 MB! Consider Faenza with 64 MB. 2. Not sure what you mean with main menu in green highlight. Arc green theme is simply green theme :) Send me a screenshot. I probably missed your point. Stefan |
OK after clarification in Discord on the gdebi issue: enigma9o7 was opening the deb file from firefox not downloading it and then opening it. This no longer works and it appears this is a known issue. It also appears this is by design. Not much I can do to change how policy kit works. One could alter the gDebi desktop file and make it work, but I am leaving it as it is.
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Yep, also another clarification:
Enigma9o7 explained me the main menu green highlight. When an user moves mouse too fast among menu items, the item leave caused the animation color fading effect. This is coded in theme by default. If users tell me to be distracting I will change it. Stefan |
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I also was able to get colorful icons back, but not exactly as you described. In fact, I left that box checked, if I didnt leave at least one box checked (didnt seem to matter which one), no matter what icon set I selected, I wouldn't get icons at all for terminology or pcmanfm. With a box checked, when I select another icon set, like ubuntu, then colorful icons are back (for everything except synaptic, it has no menu icon for some reason). |
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I'm going to keep looking into this further, cuz I want it to work from firefox, at least for me. I checked my previous bodhi install and desktop files are the same, both calling gdebi-gtk %f. And no esudo on previous version either, finally got those issues resolved following updates and forum instructions here a while ago. |
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The installer coming up on secondary display still seems odd to me; I was concerned this could happen to everyone with a second screen hooked up too, or people using hdmi for audio only that dont even have a tv on the other end.... |
Perhaps a somewhat unusual idea: it might be handy to add these excellent graphical update tools to the "fat" App Pack iso:
https://launchpad.net/~gm10/+archive...inuxmint-tools It's what I use in my (otherwise "mean and lean") Bodhi.... They work fine. Screenshots of what to expect when installed in Ubuntu: https://easylinuxtipsproject.blogspo...buntuplus.html In order to make Update Manager show a permanent icon in the system tray: launch Update Manager - panel: Edit - Preferences Enable the following option: Use AppIndicator for the tray icon (more limited but supports more desktops) Then add it to the Startup Applications. |
Enigma - I don't understand the Firefox issue. I just install it from the Software manager and it's there in the menus ready to add to the ibar. Or sudo apt install firefox. And it's there in the menus.
Also check out the themes in the software manager if you want different themes - some of the old ones are there. The theme changes the menu colours, fonts etc and taskbar icons. The ibar icons on the left and the menu icons change with the icons you choose to use (ie faenza or default green ones). If you go under settings - settings panel - application theme. Select "Icon" at the top. A number of icon sets to choose from :-) The Enlightenment one is similar to Faenza but blue folders instead of brown. If you install different themes from software manager then to change theme it's either settings-settings panel - theme (to see what it's going to look like). Or settings - theme. To select the theme if you know which one you want. You can still choose your own wallpaper as well as the theme. If you're not keen on the green (I like it :-) then even without installing any more themes you can select "default" under settings - theme and this gives you a black selection bar instead of a green one and the older style task bar icons in blue. Sometimes changing theme makes the ibar move slightly/resize. So if the panel opens to the left instead of to the right just move the ibar slightly to the left. It should stay there unless you change theme. Each theme has a different menu button - some are just 3 dots, some an arrow, some a leaf. Just the style. It's still a menu button! Different themes can make the font smaller on the menu. To increase this font size it's settings - (stay on the look menu and scroll down to ) - scaling and change 1.2 to 1.5. Terminology little window goes full screen if you click top right. Yes font size is a bit small - I think that's being looked into :-) I like that it works from install and is quite minimalist and you can change the look to whatever you like and add whatever you like. For installing software I use the software manager or the terminal/apt. I have noticed that not all distros give you the option to remove installation media. As I usually reboot after install anyway, I just turn off after install, remove the installation media and then boot up. I also find that the removing installation media doesn't always work for reboot anyway. (Not on Bodhi but other installers I've used). Personally I'm not bothered if it's there or not! |
can I ask you a question,
putting aside the "it is a minimalist distro" excuse which limits the audience of potential users. since you got make installed in that distro and there and nothing for it to use, ie gcc what is the point of adding make without gcc? what is the beg deal no having the means to compile source code in a Linux distro. I see no reason for that.... |
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I guess I'll give rc a chance when i get time.. |
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