Has Fedora changed its application software update policy?
Hello,
One of the things that prevented me to switch from Windows to Fedora Linux was the application software update policy in there. For example when I tried to use Fedora 33 I was unable to upgrade most of such software into their current release versions. For example the Git package was never updated, except for a security related reason. But now I see it's updating Git for the last three Fedora releases: https://packages.fedoraproject.org/pkgs/git/git/ According this web page the 2.45.0-1 version of the Git package is in testing stage for Fedora 40, 39 and 38. This is good. But is all application software have the same update policy in Fedora now? If I throw away Windows 10 and install Fedora 40 will I get new versions of other applications? For example LibreOffice, JDK, Maven, Audacious music player, etc.? If there was change in the application software update policy could you point me to the official press release or at least to an email about that in some Fedora mailing list? |
Well, IBM is firing all of the Red Hat people so Fedora is mostly maintained by IBM-AIX staff. Changes are inevitable.
Personally, I now avoid RHEL, Fedora, and CentOS-Stream for more community friendly options. What exactly are you looking for? Perhaps we might have useful suggestions! |
I'm looking for a Linux with very stable and mature base system and very new rolling application software.
Most of the Linux distros are either whole mature/old or whole rolling and buggy. |
Two that I know that are rolling but more stable are Manjaro (like Arch but with better stability and more testing) and VOID (rolling but not based upon ANYTHING else and with a great and conservative testing team.
Manjaro tries to make it all easy for you, and there is less of a learning curve. Void gives you a fast and stable base system, and then you have to install ALL of the moving parts. Once you get it set up the way you like, you just call and update and grab the new versions every little while (day or week, up to your) and they have tested to ensure it will all work. Manjaro is fast, and I love the option to run the Plasma desktop. Void runs even FASTER, takes more reading and work to set up the first time, and has a somewhat more limited application selection. Advantage over Fedora pre-IBM in that Fedora required a reinstall (or major and risky in-place major upgrade) every year or less to stay in support. Neither of these do. With Manjaro: I know it will be tempting, but try not to install anything from AUR unless you absolutely must. The packages in the main repos are better tested and less likely to ever cause a problem. AUR might have a newer app or version, but one not fully tested or verified by the Manjaro team. |
The policy AFAIK is that major releases (bumps to the whole-number part of the version) get held back for the next [Fedora] release. Everything else just goes through a standard process.
If you want a rolling release that's like Fedora: have you looked at Tumbleweed? |
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And ask yourself what actual FEATURES are missing from an update? If you're just wanting the latest for the sake of wanting the latest, you'll always be wanting. You don't get frequent updates now on Windows, so what's the difference here?? This is almost the same question you asked before: https://www.linuxquestions.org/quest...re-4175734794/ ...which seemed to be a thread about how bad Linux was, how bad the package maintainers are, etc. |
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And that thread was about my looking for a good Linux dostro, not about what you think. This thread is also not about what you're trying to discuss instead of the original. This is about Fedora and its possible change in their application software update policy. Do you have something to say specifically about that? Other rantings are undesirable. |
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As you were told, you can't have the latest applications linked to/working with older libraries. Either update or stay with what you have...there's no third option. And again, as asked, what actual PROBLEM/FEATURE are you missing if you don't have the 'latest' application?? Application packages for distros are updated when they've been tested against the entire distro, by the development team. While applications themselves may be released earlier, there are a LOT of software packages to build/test/modify for particular distros. Having to wait a little while doesn't seem that arduous, and if you really want the latest of everything, you're free to download the source and build it yourself. Not seeing the real issue. And the rantings you speak of seem to be in your other thread. You come here for advice and are given advice by those who know, then seem to continually argue with us with "This is not true", and other such things. If you know better, then proceed; you don't need us. You claim in your other thread that RHEL is what you want, but (somehow) with later versions of applications...again, feel free to download sources of whatever you'd like and see if you can compile them. No one is stopping you. |
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Sorry my recommendations did not meet with your approval, but they are the best recommendations I could make to get rolling application updates and a more stable distribution. I am not aware of any way to get that behavior out of Fedora. |
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ALL major distributions have normal minor updates, security patches, and application updates. All of them limit those updates to levels that will remain stable on their system except for a few TESTING specific.
Fedora is a test bed for CentOS RHEL desktop. CentOS-Stream is a test bed for RHEL Server. I do not call that stable, but use your own words. I have no more suggestions that could help you. If you find what you need please comment here so others can use this thread to find the same solution or information you found. |
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